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Monday, 7 September 2009
England Swings
OK, I know you old time readers will have picked up on the fact that I first posted this video back in 2007 but hey, what can I do? I gotta put something up and I liked the little pig in the video. Let's not muck about here, he would make a fine bacon sarnie for anyone and would make a nice change from all those hamsters we are supposed to be eating.
The primary theme of BNP propaganda is a semantic totality. Thus, the subject is contextualised into a subpatriarchialist paradigm of narrative that includes culture as a paradox. If constructivism holds, the BNP are transgressive. But Marx suggests the use of the postmodern paradigm of expression to attack class divisions.
I believe that we have to choose between cultural discourse and the preconceptualist paradigm of context. In a sense, the subject is interpolated into inclusion of racism as a reality.
Fascism promotes the use of the postmodern paradigm of expression to analyse and modify language. It could be said that the subject is contextualised into one that includes narrativity as a whole.
“Society is intrinsically unattainable,” thus 'no-platform' affirms the postmodern paradigm of expression, while however, denying constructivism. Thus, Marx suggests the use of the 'no platform' paradigm of expression to challenge racism.
The characteristic theme of the subpatriarchialist paradigm of narrative is the role of the activist. The structuralist paradigm of context implies that discourse is a product of the racial collective unconscious, but only if the Nazi model of the subpatriarchialist paradigm of narrative is valid. However, the subject is interpolated into one that includes ethnicity as a totality.
The premise of the postmodern paradigm of expression states that consciousness serves to disempower the underprivileged. In a sense, an abundance of theories concerning constructivism may be found.
8 CommentsClose this window Jump to comment form Anonymous said... Great !!! :-)
29 November 2007 15:40
Anonymous said... Oh, how England is swinging its cock in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN, course and effect.
29 November 2007 16:45
Anonymous said... GA: Another shining example of your lame postings?
29 November 2007 20:10
subtextual analyst said... Louise,
Regarding your previous posts,
The primary theme of BNP propaganda is a semantic totality. Thus, the subject is contextualised into a subpatriarchialist paradigm of narrative that includes culture as a paradox. If constructivism holds, the BNP are transgressive. But Marx suggests the use of the postmodern paradigm of expression to attack class divisions etc
you have absolutely lost me on this one, please forgive my lack of understanding but I am not nearly as educared as you obviously you are, would you mind writing that post again in plain English.
When I was young, it was said by everyone who knew me that I would shag a rattlesnake if someone would hold its tail still.
When I was a serviceman, I was once on detachment to another base, and my boss had to withdraw me because I'd shagged all three daughters of an officer ... and the officer had found out.
A competitive shag is a magic thing - that's when each of you is trying to shag the other into submission. It's a two-way street. My wife and I spent 25 years trying to do this to each other, and frankly, it was great. I'm sure Louise would be too.
Of course, I'm no longer up to the all-nighters ... but there's always viagra I suppose.
I did once shag the ugliest woman in the world, down in Kent. I have been disgusted with myself ever since. :)
"you have absolutely lost me on this one, please forgive my lack of understanding but I am not nearly as educared as you obviously you are...."
Louise, My comment was absolutely meaningless. It was generated by the Postmodernism Generator with a few buzzwords thrown in (follow the link back)
But it does illustrate the CRAP PASSING AS EDUCATED DISCOURSE BEING TAUGHT IN OUR UNIVERSITIES
“All narratives are of equal worth” - this is the malevolent dogma of Postmodernism in our (taxpayer-funded) universities.
Postmodernism is the anti-rational, anti-Western, culturally self-loathing pseudo-philosophy which permeates academia.
Postmodernism is a self-induced cancer which allows the alien virus of Islam to spread like a secondary infection throughout body of Western Civilization.
Postmodernist leftards regard Mo's barbaric dark-age death-cult as a 'narrative' of equal value to the products of Judeo-Christian culture . In fact Islam may be a superior narrative because it is the product of victimhood.
I would strongly advise Kuffars who wish to understand the threat that Islam poses to our civilization not only to study and critique Islam itself, but to understand and work against the suicidal and culturicidal self-loathing of Postmodernism. “All narratives are of equal worth” - the PoMo dogma that dominates university arts, humanities and social studies departments. All narratives are socially constructed by dominant power groups - dead white males and Joooooooz being the usual suspects.
Postmodernism hasn't made much headway in science, engineering or mathematics departments, for reasons I'll come to in a moment.
Neither is postmodernism taken seriously by most philosophers, because it is in effect self-contradictory. "All narratives are of equal worth" So, optimistically all narratives should be equally true.
Unfortunately for the leftards, diverse narratives contradict each other, so to maintain equality we must conclude that all narratives are equally false. However postmodernism is itself a narrative, so "all narratives are of equal worth" is as equally true/false as "some narratives are better than others". This is a variant of the old Cretan Paradox - 'Everything I say is a lie'. Pursue this line of reasoning far enough and the result will be insanity and/or left-wing politics. This spoof site (a postmodern essay generator) really hits the bullseye .. http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo
Some years ago there was an attempt by PoMo leftard Marxist sociologists to protray science as a socially constructed narrative (constructed by all those Joooooooish Nobel prize winners with the poor old Muslim-victims being so underepresented ) . The logical outcome of this was if your culture said it was possible to float in the air then the socially-constructed Joooodeo-Christian (Newton and Einstein) laws of gravity would not apply to you as you stepped out of a sixth floor window.
This irrationalist obscurantist attack on science was debunked by the famous Sokal hoax, and the leftards have not been back since... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_Affair
However the university faculties where logical thinking may be more of a handicap than a help greatly outnumber the science/philosophy/engineering faculties. There has been a vast proliferation of Departments of Indefinite Studies, Post-Colonialist Awareness, Multicultural Assertion, etc etc.
Western culture is 'despised' because some aspects of it ARE DIFFICULT TO MASTER. Thus sneeering cultural self-loathing is used as a cover for intellectual inadequacy.
In this dumbed down 'academic' environment, is it any wonder that Islam, which would have been laughed to scorn by previous generations, is now regarded as a subject worthy of study in its own right as a valid narrative, rather than being seen as a primitive cult of interest primarily to the anthropologist and historian? Of course Edward Said has a lot to answer for, coming along at just the right time to exploit the rise in postmodernism and post-colonial guilt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Said
Postmodernism is the fatal crack in the intellectual structure of Western civilisation through which the virus of Islam enters.
thanks for that, I had just poured a glass of southern comfort and hadnt even had a sip, it made me feel pissed just reading it. Reality is that i dont have any faith in a political solution to the mess this country is in. The country will need a govt of national unity to sort out the problems then we can go back to democracy and the niceties of politics.
Sir Henry, as an aside, would you know where i might find information on the Royal Navies ships which are laid up for sale or in mothballs. just curious
Defender: I dont think they have RN ships but you can find other military, surveillance and research vessels and ships on this site: http://www.eagleshippingltd.com
They can probably recommend other specific RN sites too I expect.
I think you can also get more direct information about British RN ships from The British Navy Board. I understand that they may have an office in Pompey. Louise.
No, I haven't a clue. I used to live in Devonport, once upon a time, and there always seemed to be mothballed ships there.
I did read once - can't remember where, but it was within the past two yers, of a type 42 frigate that got sold for $40,000. So it is possible.
There are privately owned Chieftain and other tanks out there, so presumably there's a market in those too - though the guns probably have no breech mechanisms.
And I know there is at least one privately owned Hawker Hunter (A Dutchman, I think).
So there are markets for military kit; I've just never seen any point in looking for them as I don't have the money.
Anon: If you had bothered to look through the other pages, you will see that I dont respect the website antics of either the UAF or GA. Both are sloppy and need to smarten up. I think it was correct for your protests in Oxford last week but to have shifted from a protest to have actually halted someone and prevented them from peaceful assembly violates both the right for peaceful assembly and the right to freedom of speech. I agree in the concept of united against fascism but I think people need to be considerate in how they go about uniting. If uniting involves voilence, then how does it seperate itself out from the same violence used in the act to which a person protests in the first place? Your public speakers are far more articulate than the BNP, I'll give you that. And you dont involve in psycho-babble like the rubbish abouve by SA to make a point which is helpful but your website could benefit from an overhaul!
Well, like all good things, time has come to an end. Im giving you racist harrasers the weekend off as I'm away for work. Naturally, BFBs inability to be polite has meant that he will have to wait further for an answer. Likewise, you can celebrate here with an absolute gluttenous overload of cheer that Im off. This will give your poor, exhausted and frankly nasty racist brains a good rest. See if you can read up on the declaration of human rights and the beauty of our diverse non-white British and non-white human friends all over the world that the rest of us get on so well with, and have done for hundreds of years. Over to you......!
You can't answer my question because whichever way you answer you massively contradict everything you've posted here. Your problem is that you lack an understanding of human nature, learn to live with the fact that the world will never be the way you want it to be.
'Birds of a feather flock together'...live with it!
Have a nice weekend (Sir HM is looking forward to seeing you)...(-;
Louise "the beauty of our diverse non-white British and non-white human friends all over the world that the rest of us get on so well with, and have done since the Bombardment of Algiers. Over to you......!"
I quite agree. I'm sure I could get on really well with the non-white Ayaan Hirsi Ali , especially after her 'far right Fascist islamophobic' outburst at http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/376476/we-are-at-war-with-all-islam.thtml
But I'm afraid it is not to be.
It's just the usual threesome in bed tonight - me, the wife and Mohammed.
Ah, time for one more before I catch my train, then I am really am off. I will address a few points:
1. BFB: You have confirmed your stupidity, not just for jumping in and backing up what you assume to be intelligent responses from your playmate, SA, but also because you appear not to be able to read what I said in previous posts. Your question regarding tribalism kept on changing. I was waiting until you stabilised it before responding to you and my reluctance to respond to you was compounded by your overindulgence to give in to your frustrations and lack of clear coherent arguments, which you present through rudeness/insults. Other commenters have gotten away with rude address lines that is true, but I am making a specific example of you! Principally because you have been the most crass, the most insulting and the most suggestive. Unfortunately, the game of your stupidity is given away because those angry stances you take are always synonymous with the absence of you saying hardly anything that makes sense. Therefore, if you want me to engage in answering ‘a’ question or a set of questions, address me politely by ‘Louise’ or ‘anon’ or do not bother to keep on asking. And remember what I said, the answer is not going to be reduced simply to one word AND you WILL delight in taking parts of my response out of context to fit your image of the world and to justify your behaviour.
2. BFB: Let your anger take a back seat for a minute and try to think more clearly about what you want to say. Your friends here may think you are funny but there is a world outside of the BNP and you will have to address that if you want political power. Whether you like it or not, you are going to need to change your stance to get there. Otherwise, you can sit back in the pub with your mates and just congratulate each other. I am in a position to take the moral high ground with regards to your specific behaviour because a. I do not behave like you and b. I do not support any political group mainstream or otherwise. I don’t have to kiss the backside of the BNP like you do. Griffin and his ilk would not be pleased if they can see the way that you dish out your insults AND some of the postings that you have written contradict recommended BNP stances. So are you in support of the BNP or not? Start acting like it then!
3. SA wasted his/her time with the philiso-bable post. Everyone knows that anyone who ever talks like that or bangs on about post-modernism (a term that does not have a coherent definition!) is usually full of it. It does not make sense for those of us who are ordinary to speak like that. However, when people are educated in that way and have arguments that are grounded in philosophical and political positions, they are clever at the point that they can break them down into words that people like you and me understand. SA has already admitted that the post was a farce. Anyone can pick up a book and equate the BNP stance to Weedon’s interpretation of Foucauldian power (sp) and align much of the BNP arguments to nothing more than positivistic biological determinism and associated power, alienation and conformity. But doing that achieves nothing precisely because we are ordinary people and it doesn’t make sense for most of us. That is why I usually avoid that sort of ‘talk’.
4. BFB: Some us educated ourselves and did not use the Guardian newspaper to do it!
5. And in a sense, SA is correct, some universities do cover subjects that some of us don’t like. And people have a choice in what subjects they want to learn about. And so they should. Regardless of whether or not you like him, Edward Said’s arguments knock yours into oblivion SA! The reason that he has sold more books to non-Arabs who have enjoyed them and been inspired to live peacefully as a result of them than the totality of BNP members and voters put together is because he raises valid points. Because you cannot delete what he wrote, it matters not whether I think he was a good author or whether you think he was not. Don’t try to censor other’s right to an education of their choosing!
6. The bigger issue that you do raise was a backward snipe at universities and this might be where we have some common ground. Unfortunately, universities do engage in grade inflation (which is worrying for Collett considering his embarrassing university degree result). These days, all have won and everyone must have prizes. The numbers of first class degrees that are dished out like smarties are often nothing more than a certificate in short term memory. Education is supposed to be about teaching people to think.
7. There is nothing wrong with the ‘concept’ of going to university and students who are taught well are taught HOW to think and how to learn. Of course the best-case scenario is when they come out of university with skills that are useful for the community, society or country where they choose to live and/or work. When done correctly, education is a privilege to engage in and you should be mindful of that before alienating yourself from the rest of the UK and from many of your supporters who have gone through the education system. I surely hope that you are not advocating that none of us aspire to an education? That is a human right you know!
8. Now, if you’re talking about the BALANCE in the UK today, that is another matter! The over-inflation of university education above other forms of education and training IS a problem! The death of apprenticeships and the death of placing value on important occupations such as parenting, caring, skilled work, hard-graft and all the other terribly paid jobs has been at a massive loss to the UK. All governments so far have played their part in screwing this up in order to promote their own ideology, or maybe because they cannot do any better or maybe because they are rubbish at politics (and we know that many are!).
9. But how can an ordinary bloggs like me have any faith in the BNP education policy? Have you seen it?! It’s a joke, not because of the items that you list but because of its absolute omission to describe how any of the ideas would actually take place. Did you get some simpleton in to write it or a decent educationalist who can think across to ‘policy’ and ‘evidence as to what works’ and then back the other way to people in the UK and the educational and skill needs of the peoples living here? It is the one area where you have the opportunity to shine because apart from BFB and SAs obvious insecurities with being educated and skilled, most people agree that education and training are excellent places for nurturing a healthy, happy, skilled, talented and working society of people.
SA/Najistani and BFB: You will have heard the saying no doubt:
“The sign of an intelligent people is their ability to control their emotions by the application of reason”
You should try it sometime. But with regards to you specifically (not the other commenters):
“It is better to keep one’s mouth shut and be considered a fool, than to open it and remove all grounds of doubt”
Now then, I’m off until next week. I shall leave you to your insults (which are sure to follow) and to a few days of unchallenged postings from your backslapping friends.
I thought you were going to ignore me until I stop calling you Troll? Or is that just a pathetic excuse to avoid answering a perfectly simple question, one which you are undeniably reluctant to answer?
Why is that? Do you need help?
In case it never occurred to you most of us are bored shitless with your overly lengthy babbling and scroll straight through your posts; personally I only read the bits than have BFB in them, and then only for a laugh!
You must be a really sad and lonely individual, I'm actually starting to pity you.
Now run along and enjoy your weekend out with Alcoholics Anonymous.
Anon, I am Jewish and support the BNP mainly because I dont like what the arabs are doing to us. It is true that the BFB blogger is being ignorant and rude. I would never speak to a woman like that. Although I disagree with your speech about racism here in the BNP, you are correct that BFB is not doing justice to our cause BNP. Why don't you go onto his blog and take up your disagreements with him there? You seem well suited in your determinism and stubborness and you look as if you can teach him a thing or two about respect for women!
Anon12:37 Tada!!!Your post assuming you are genuine and not another bridge dweller provides admissible evidence of how effective tenacious unrelenting troll activity can be .He/she/louise/garside/judgejudyis part of the problem not your friend,it's a faceless troublemaker here to stir, divide and succeeding it seems.
I don't believe for one second that dear Louise has buzzed off for the weekend. (such a high flyer would carry a trusty lap top everywhere anyway) She's coming on here as other anons supporting herself to try and make us believe she's got support and a reason to live.
1) They have a lot of free time, they are mostly lonely people. 2) They often ingratiate themselves to a person or two on the group and use them to stay in the group. They may protest with these "friends" that their right to free speech is being curtailed. 3) They sometimes use "socketpuppets", i.e. fake identities that may be used to sustain, or to inflame the troll's position or theory or attack. At times the socket puppets' names are anagrams or similar to the troll name. Thus a troll may engage in artificial conversations with himself. However impersonating multiple people is frowned upon by the more able trolls and is considered the lowest of the possible troll tactics.
Hi Battler, interesting comment. Especially if you saw my post This cant be right, about the Labour councilor who was thrown of Swansea Council for downloading porn AND writing letters to the local rag using false identities.
UAF, Labour different sides of the same coin with the same tactics.
I believe Trollouise IS working for the UAF if not an actual member despite his/her denial. It's a typical troll tactic to pretend to be impartial of any particular group.
GA - excellent website and a very valuable resource for British Nationalists - please keep up the good work.
In relation to Dildo Gobshite/"Louise"/Anon - my experience tells me that feeding trolls/red-fascists by responding to them, only makes them even "hungrier" in their quest to waste everybody's time! You guys have done a fantastic job of shooting her spurious arguments down and making her look a completely patronising and poorly educated twat. (Yes, I know it's fun and you shouldn't give a sucker an even break, but....)
We've got far more important fish to fry, comrades, and a country to win back! May I respectfully suggest that our collective energies are far better utilised by leaving the trolls to their bottom-feeding and solitary antics, whilst we continue winning hearts and minds. Just a thought.
"Do not feed the trolls" only works to a point. Imagine a new arrival to the thread; they will find themselves confronted with a 'red' who appears to be running rings around the BNPers who appear to be of lesser intelligence than the (what you and I know to be a) TROLL.
I agree, you should not even attempt to engage in rational debate with a TROLL - that's the last thing it wants - but, for the sake of newcomers, I think it's important to expose the TROLL every time it posts.
Indeed, calling a TROLL a TROLL is the best way to damage it's precious 'TROLL-CRED'.
Great !!! :-)
ReplyDeleteLouise,
ReplyDeleteRegarding your previous posts,
The primary theme of BNP propaganda is a semantic totality. Thus, the subject is contextualised into a subpatriarchialist paradigm of narrative that includes culture as a paradox. If constructivism holds, the BNP are transgressive. But Marx suggests the use of the postmodern paradigm of expression to attack class divisions.
I believe that we have to choose between cultural discourse and the preconceptualist paradigm of context. In a sense, the subject is interpolated into inclusion of racism as a reality.
Fascism promotes the use of the postmodern paradigm of expression to analyse and modify language. It could be said that the subject is contextualised into one that includes narrativity as a whole.
“Society is intrinsically unattainable,” thus 'no-platform' affirms the postmodern paradigm of expression, while however, denying constructivism. Thus, Marx suggests the use of the 'no platform' paradigm of expression to challenge racism.
The characteristic theme of the subpatriarchialist paradigm of narrative is the role of the activist. The structuralist paradigm of context implies that discourse is a product of the racial collective unconscious, but only if the Nazi model of the subpatriarchialist paradigm of narrative is valid. However, the subject is interpolated into one that includes ethnicity as a totality.
The premise of the postmodern paradigm of expression states that consciousness serves to disempower the underprivileged. In a sense, an abundance of theories concerning constructivism may be found.
I hope this helps to clarify the issues.
Subtextual analyst,
ReplyDeleteI was just about to say that!
Troll,
Please answer my question.
Is 'Tribalism' perfectly natural?
Are we taking bets as to whether or not SA gets a reply
ReplyDeleteSir HM .. tut tut shame on you!
That's sexual harassment, don't you know.
Louise will be down the solicitors like a shot first thing in the morning.
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ReplyDeleteAnonymous said...
Great !!! :-)
29 November 2007 15:40
Anonymous said...
Oh, how England is swinging its cock in IRAQ and AFGHANISTAN, course and effect.
29 November 2007 16:45
Anonymous said...
GA: Another shining example of your lame postings?
29 November 2007 20:10
subtextual analyst said...
Louise,
Regarding your previous posts,
The primary theme of BNP propaganda is a semantic totality. Thus, the subject is contextualised into a subpatriarchialist paradigm of narrative that includes culture as a paradox. If constructivism holds, the BNP are transgressive. But Marx suggests the use of the postmodern paradigm of expression to attack class divisions etc
you have absolutely lost me on this one, please forgive my lack of understanding but I am not nearly as educared as you obviously you are, would you mind writing that post again in plain English.
Phil
ReplyDeleteWhen I was young, it was said by everyone who knew me that I would shag a rattlesnake if someone would hold its tail still.
When I was a serviceman, I was once on detachment to another base, and my boss had to withdraw me because I'd shagged all three daughters of an officer ... and the officer had found out.
A competitive shag is a magic thing - that's when each of you is trying to shag the other into submission. It's a two-way street. My wife and I spent 25 years trying to do this to each other, and frankly, it was great. I'm sure Louise would be too.
Of course, I'm no longer up to the all-nighters ... but there's always viagra I suppose.
I did once shag the ugliest woman in the world, down in Kent. I have been disgusted with myself ever since. :)
"you have absolutely lost me on this one, please forgive my lack of understanding but I am not nearly as educared as you obviously you are...."
ReplyDeleteLouise,
My comment was absolutely meaningless. It was generated by the Postmodernism Generator with a few buzzwords thrown in (follow the link back)
But it does illustrate the CRAP PASSING AS EDUCATED DISCOURSE BEING TAUGHT IN OUR UNIVERSITIES
“All narratives are of equal worth”
- this is the malevolent dogma of Postmodernism in our (taxpayer-funded) universities.
Postmodernism is the anti-rational, anti-Western, culturally self-loathing pseudo-philosophy which permeates academia.
Postmodernism is a self-induced cancer which allows the alien virus of Islam to spread like a secondary infection throughout body of Western Civilization.
Postmodernist leftards regard Mo's barbaric dark-age death-cult as a 'narrative' of equal value to the products of Judeo-Christian culture . In fact Islam may be a superior narrative because it is the product of victimhood.
I would strongly advise Kuffars who wish to understand the threat that Islam poses to our civilization not only to study and critique Islam itself, but to understand and work against the suicidal and culturicidal self-loathing of Postmodernism.
“All narratives are of equal worth” - the PoMo dogma that dominates university arts, humanities and social studies departments. All narratives are socially constructed by dominant power groups - dead white males and Joooooooz being the usual suspects.
Postmodernism hasn't made much headway in science, engineering or mathematics departments, for reasons I'll come to in a moment.
Neither is postmodernism taken seriously by most philosophers, because it is in effect self-contradictory. "All narratives are of equal worth" So, optimistically all narratives should be equally true.
Unfortunately for the leftards, diverse narratives contradict each other, so to maintain equality we must conclude that all narratives are equally false. However postmodernism is itself a narrative, so "all narratives are of equal worth" is as equally true/false as "some narratives are better than others". This is a variant of the old Cretan Paradox - 'Everything I say is a lie'. Pursue this line of reasoning far enough and the result will be insanity and/or left-wing politics. This spoof site (a postmodern essay generator) really hits the bullseye .. http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo
Some years ago there was an attempt by PoMo leftard Marxist sociologists to protray science as a socially constructed narrative (constructed by all those Joooooooish Nobel prize winners with the poor old Muslim-victims being so underepresented ) . The logical outcome of this was if your culture said it was possible to float in the air then the socially-constructed Joooodeo-Christian (Newton and Einstein) laws of gravity would not apply to you as you stepped out of a sixth floor window.
This irrationalist obscurantist attack on science was debunked by the famous Sokal hoax, and the leftards have not been back since... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_Affair
However the university faculties where logical thinking may be more of a handicap than a help greatly outnumber the science/philosophy/engineering faculties. There has been a vast proliferation of Departments of Indefinite Studies, Post-Colonialist Awareness, Multicultural Assertion, etc etc.
Western culture is 'despised' because some aspects of it ARE DIFFICULT TO MASTER. Thus sneeering cultural self-loathing is used as a cover for intellectual inadequacy.
In this dumbed down 'academic' environment, is it any wonder that Islam, which would have been laughed to scorn by previous generations, is now regarded as a subject worthy of study in its own right as a valid narrative, rather than being seen as a primitive cult of interest primarily to the anthropologist and historian? Of course Edward Said has a lot to answer for, coming along at just the right time to exploit the rise in postmodernism and post-colonial guilt. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Said
Postmodernism is the fatal crack in the intellectual structure of Western civilisation through which the virus of Islam enters.
Najistani - aka Subtextual analyst
thanks for that, I had just poured a glass of southern comfort and hadnt even had a sip, it made me feel pissed just reading it.
ReplyDeleteReality is that i dont have any faith in a political solution to the mess this country is in. The country will need a govt of national unity to sort out the problems then we can go back to democracy and the niceties of politics.
Defender
ReplyDeleteI don't have any faith in a political solution either.
This will be sorted the hard way, I'm afraid.
Sir Henry, as an aside, would you know where i might find information on the Royal Navies ships which are laid up for sale or in mothballs. just curious
ReplyDeleteSubtextual analyst, it was not me who asked you to clarify your stupid post (I think it was the "defender").
ReplyDeleteDefender: I dont think they have RN ships but you can find other military, surveillance and research vessels and ships on this site: http://www.eagleshippingltd.com
ReplyDeleteThey can probably recommend other specific RN sites too I expect.
I think you can also get more direct information about British RN ships from The British Navy Board. I understand that they may have an office in Pompey. Louise.
ReplyDeleteNajistani/Subtextual Analyst,
ReplyDeleteBrilliant. Pure class. Although I wouldn't have put in as much time into a Marxist TROLL who can't even answer the most basic of questions.
Thanks for that, now I won't have to keep repeating myself like a pig-IGNORANT runt of a TROLL.
Hat tip to you, sir!
BFB: ....yep, that was all it need. in SA's case, stupid is as stupid does.
ReplyDeleteRun Forrest Run!!!!
ReplyDeleteDefender
ReplyDeleteNo, I haven't a clue. I used to live in Devonport, once upon a time, and there always seemed to be mothballed ships there.
I did read once - can't remember where, but it was within the past two yers, of a type 42 frigate that got sold for $40,000. So it is possible.
There are privately owned Chieftain and other tanks out there, so presumably there's a market in those too - though the guns probably have no breech mechanisms.
And I know there is at least one privately owned Hawker Hunter (A Dutchman, I think).
So there are markets for military kit; I've just never seen any point in looking for them as I don't have the money.
I do know how to look after a Hunter though.
Er ... anon...
ReplyDeleteOur Louise is far too intelligent for the UAF crew. She may annoy the hell out of us here, but there's no arguing about her brightness.
Ok Louise, NOW are you up for a shag.
Defender
ReplyDeleteHow about these:
http://tinyurl.com/2ah3zj
PS the frigate I mentioned above was £ not $ - typo
Anon: If you had bothered to look through the other pages, you will see that I dont respect the website antics of either the UAF or GA. Both are sloppy and need to smarten up. I think it was correct for your protests in Oxford last week but to have shifted from a protest to have actually halted someone and prevented them from peaceful assembly violates both the right for peaceful assembly and the right to freedom of speech. I agree in the concept of united against fascism but I think people need to be considerate in how they go about uniting. If uniting involves voilence, then how does it seperate itself out from the same violence used in the act to which a person protests in the first place? Your public speakers are far more articulate than the BNP, I'll give you that. And you dont involve in psycho-babble like the rubbish abouve by SA to make a point which is helpful but your website could benefit from an overhaul!
ReplyDeleteWell, like all good things, time has come to an end. Im giving you racist harrasers the weekend off as I'm away for work. Naturally, BFBs inability to be polite has meant that he will have to wait further for an answer. Likewise, you can celebrate here with an absolute gluttenous overload of cheer that Im off. This will give your poor, exhausted and frankly nasty racist brains a good rest. See if you can read up on the declaration of human rights and the beauty of our diverse non-white British and non-white human friends all over the world that the rest of us get on so well with, and have done for hundreds of years. Over to you......!
ReplyDeleteTroll,
ReplyDeleteYou can't answer my question because whichever way you answer you massively contradict everything you've posted here. Your problem is that you lack an understanding of human nature, learn to live with the fact that the world will never be the way you want it to be.
'Birds of a feather flock together'...live with it!
Have a nice weekend (Sir HM is looking forward to seeing you)...(-;
You've got to hand it to her though: she comes on here to argue knowing that everyone else is against her. She's got nerve and persistence.
ReplyDeleteI can't get any more lounge-lizardish than that Louise. Are you up for a shag yet? I ... er ... promise ;) ... I wont tell anyone.
Louise
ReplyDelete"the beauty of our diverse non-white British and non-white human friends all over the world that the rest of us get on so well with, and have done since the Bombardment of Algiers. Over to you......!"
I quite agree. I'm sure I could get on really well with the non-white Ayaan Hirsi Ali , especially after her 'far right Fascist islamophobic' outburst at http://www.spectator.co.uk/the-magazine/features/376476/we-are-at-war-with-all-islam.thtml
But I'm afraid it is not to be.
It's just the usual threesome in bed tonight - me, the wife and Mohammed.
najistani
ReplyDeletenice to see you beat the intelletual shit out of the troll Louise,
i think she just soiled her pants.
shut the door on the way out louise we dont need lightweights like you round here talking claptrap and nonsense trying to act intellectual!
we live in the real world here with real life experience on the sharp end of labours multicultural hell on earth, yes we the working classes.
buh bye dear and take your middleclass ivory tower guardian paper reading bullshit with you!
or we may let najistani tear you a another new asshole to go with the three you already have.
Ah, time for one more before I catch my train, then I am really am off. I will address a few points:
ReplyDelete1. BFB: You have confirmed your stupidity, not just for jumping in and backing up what you assume to be intelligent responses from your playmate, SA, but also because you appear not to be able to read what I said in previous posts. Your question regarding tribalism kept on changing. I was waiting until you stabilised it before responding to you and my reluctance to respond to you was compounded by your overindulgence to give in to your frustrations and lack of clear coherent arguments, which you present through rudeness/insults. Other commenters have gotten away with rude address lines that is true, but I am making a specific example of you! Principally because you have been the most crass, the most insulting and the most suggestive. Unfortunately, the game of your stupidity is given away because those angry stances you take are always synonymous with the absence of you saying hardly anything that makes sense. Therefore, if you want me to engage in answering ‘a’ question or a set of questions, address me politely by ‘Louise’ or ‘anon’ or do not bother to keep on asking. And remember what I said, the answer is not going to be reduced simply to one word AND you WILL delight in taking parts of my response out of context to fit your image of the world and to justify your behaviour.
2. BFB: Let your anger take a back seat for a minute and try to think more clearly about what
you want to say. Your friends here may think you are funny but there is a world outside of
the BNP and you will have to address that if you want political power. Whether you like it
or not, you are going to need to change your stance to get there. Otherwise, you can sit
back in the pub with your mates and just congratulate each other. I am in a position to
take the moral high ground with regards to your specific behaviour because a. I do not
behave like you and b. I do not support any political group mainstream or otherwise. I don’t have to kiss the backside of the BNP like you do.
Griffin and his ilk would not be pleased if they can see the way that you dish out your
insults AND some of the postings that you have written contradict recommended BNP
stances. So are you in support of the BNP or not? Start acting like it then!
3. SA wasted his/her time with the philiso-bable post. Everyone knows that anyone who ever talks like that or bangs on about post-modernism (a term that does not have a coherent definition!) is usually full of it. It does not make sense for those of us who are ordinary to speak like that. However, when people are educated in that way and have arguments that are grounded in philosophical and political positions, they are clever at the point that they can break them down into words that people like you and me understand. SA has already admitted that the post was a farce. Anyone can pick up a book and equate the BNP stance to Weedon’s interpretation of Foucauldian power (sp) and align much of the BNP arguments to nothing more than positivistic biological determinism and associated power, alienation and conformity. But doing that achieves nothing precisely because we are ordinary people and it doesn’t make sense for most of us. That is why I usually avoid that sort of ‘talk’.
4. BFB: Some us educated ourselves and did not use the Guardian newspaper to do it!
5. And in a sense, SA is correct, some universities do cover subjects that some of us don’t like. And people have a choice in what subjects they want to learn about. And so they should. Regardless of whether or not you like him, Edward Said’s arguments knock yours into oblivion SA! The reason that he has sold more books to non-Arabs who have enjoyed them and been inspired to live peacefully as a result of them than the totality of BNP members and voters put together is because he raises valid points. Because you cannot delete what he wrote, it matters not whether I think he was a good author or whether you think he was not. Don’t try to censor other’s right to an education of their choosing!
6. The bigger issue that you do raise was a backward snipe at universities and this might be where we have some common ground. Unfortunately, universities do engage in grade inflation (which is worrying for Collett considering his embarrassing university degree result). These days, all have won and everyone must have prizes. The numbers of first class degrees that are dished out like smarties are often nothing more than a certificate in short term memory. Education is supposed to be about teaching people to think.
7. There is nothing wrong with the ‘concept’ of going to university and students who are taught well are taught HOW to think and how to learn. Of course the best-case scenario is when they come out of university with skills that are useful for the community, society or country where they choose to live and/or work. When done correctly, education is a privilege to engage in and you should be mindful of that before alienating yourself from the rest of the UK and from many of your supporters who have gone through the education system. I surely hope that you are not advocating that none of us aspire to an education? That is a human right you know!
8. Now, if you’re talking about the BALANCE in the UK today, that is another matter! The over-inflation of university education above other forms of education and training IS a problem! The death of apprenticeships and the death of placing value on important occupations such as parenting, caring, skilled work, hard-graft and all the other terribly paid jobs has been at a massive loss to the UK. All governments so far have played their part in screwing this up in order to promote their own ideology, or maybe because they cannot do any better or maybe because they are rubbish at politics (and we know that many are!).
9. But how can an ordinary bloggs like me have any faith in the BNP education policy? Have you seen it?! It’s a joke, not because of the items that you list but because of its absolute omission to describe how any of the ideas would actually take place. Did you get some simpleton in to write it or a decent educationalist who can think across to ‘policy’ and ‘evidence as to what works’ and then back the other way to people in the UK and the educational and skill needs of the peoples living here? It is the one area where you have the opportunity to shine because apart from BFB and SAs obvious insecurities with being educated and skilled, most people agree that education and training are excellent places for nurturing a healthy, happy, skilled, talented and working society of people.
SA/Najistani and BFB: You will have heard the saying no doubt:
“The sign of an intelligent people is their ability to control their emotions by the application of reason”
You should try it sometime. But with regards to you specifically (not the other commenters):
“It is better to keep one’s mouth shut and be considered a fool, than to open it and remove all grounds of doubt”
Now then, I’m off until next week. I shall leave you to your insults (which are sure to follow) and to a few days of unchallenged postings from your backslapping friends.
Anon: 1016
ReplyDeleteI am sure we will enjoy the rest. Have a safe journey.
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A note to Moslem Joke posters.
Only jokes about Moslems please. All others will be deleted.
There is a permanent link to the joke page on the right under the Action Stations link.
Anon please send the one about the samaritans again please to the correct link. ROFL.
OK
ReplyDeletewhat exactly do you find laughable about the 2007 "MINI" summary of BNPs education policies.
and why aren't they workable in your opinion ?
Troll,
ReplyDeleteI thought you were going to ignore me until I stop calling you Troll? Or is that just a pathetic excuse to avoid answering a perfectly simple question, one which you are undeniably reluctant to answer?
Why is that? Do you need help?
In case it never occurred to you most of us are bored shitless with your overly lengthy babbling and scroll straight through your posts; personally I only read the bits than have BFB in them, and then only for a laugh!
You must be a really sad and lonely individual, I'm actually starting to pity you.
Now run along and enjoy your weekend out with Alcoholics Anonymous.
Anon, I am Jewish and support the BNP mainly because I dont like what the arabs are doing to us. It is true that the BFB blogger is being ignorant and rude. I would never speak to a woman like that. Although I disagree with your speech about racism here in the BNP, you are correct that BFB is not doing justice to our cause BNP. Why don't you go onto his blog and take up your disagreements with him there? You seem well suited in your determinism and stubborness and you look as if you can teach him a thing or two about respect for women!
ReplyDeleteAnon12:37 Tada!!!Your post assuming you are genuine and not another bridge dweller provides admissible evidence of how effective tenacious unrelenting troll activity can be .He/she/louise/garside/judgejudyis part of the problem not your friend,it's a faceless troublemaker here to stir, divide and succeeding it seems.
ReplyDeleteI don't believe for one second that dear Louise has buzzed off for the weekend. (such a high flyer would carry a trusty lap top everywhere anyway) She's coming on here as other anons supporting herself to try and make us believe she's got support and a reason to live.
ReplyDeleteHey Trollouise
ReplyDeleteI asked you a question. Would you let your 9 year old daughter marry an adult male?
Come on, answer me, you can do it it isn't that hard.
For someone so mouthy you've gone awfully quiet. I wonder why?
Reconquista.
Sir HM
ReplyDeleteI take it that you didn't get that shag then.
Is it possible to buy troll food or can they only be fed on blogs?
There seems to be lots of them about lately. Maybe they breed fast.
Trolls' characteristicae
ReplyDelete1) They have a lot of free time, they are mostly lonely people.
2) They often ingratiate themselves to a person or two on the group and use them to stay in the group. They may protest with these "friends" that their right to free speech is being curtailed.
3) They sometimes use "socketpuppets", i.e. fake identities that may be used to sustain, or to inflame the troll's position or theory or attack. At times the socket puppets' names are anagrams or similar to the troll name. Thus a troll may engage in artificial conversations with himself. However impersonating multiple people is frowned upon by the more able trolls and is considered the lowest of the possible troll tactics.
Hi Battler, interesting comment. Especially if you saw my post This cant be right, about the Labour councilor who was thrown of Swansea Council for downloading porn AND writing letters to the local rag using false identities.
ReplyDeleteUAF, Labour different sides of the same coin with the same tactics.
GA,
ReplyDeleteI believe Trollouise IS working for the UAF if not an actual member despite his/her denial. It's a typical troll tactic to pretend to be impartial of any particular group.
GA - excellent website and a very valuable resource for British Nationalists - please keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteIn relation to Dildo Gobshite/"Louise"/Anon - my experience tells me that feeding trolls/red-fascists by responding to them, only makes them even "hungrier" in their quest to waste everybody's time! You guys have done a fantastic job of shooting her spurious arguments down and making her look a completely patronising and poorly educated twat. (Yes, I know it's fun and you shouldn't give a sucker an even break, but....)
We've got far more important fish to fry, comrades, and a country to win back! May I respectfully suggest that our collective energies are far better utilised by leaving the trolls to their bottom-feeding and solitary antics, whilst we continue winning hearts and minds. Just a thought.
Tomorrow Belongs To Us!
Capt. Swing,
ReplyDelete"Do not feed the trolls" only works to a point. Imagine a new arrival to the thread; they will find themselves confronted with a 'red' who appears to be running rings around the BNPers who appear to be of lesser intelligence than the (what you and I know to be a) TROLL.
I agree, you should not even attempt to engage in rational debate with a TROLL - that's the last thing it wants - but, for the sake of newcomers, I think it's important to expose the TROLL every time it posts.
Indeed, calling a TROLL a TROLL is the best way to damage it's precious 'TROLL-CRED'.