By Mister Fox
I thought we should see what some “Caste” academics are. The intelligentsia are erudite and articulate when talking on comfortable subjects but when it comes to immigration and national identity they go to pieces and can not talk rationally. They become childish or avoid an objective analysis by retreating into the past.
This is Linda Colley Professor of History at Princeton and a Wolfson Prize winner; and historian, (3) showing her prejudices in her book, Captives: Britain, Empire, and the World, 1600-1850.
The book expresses contemporary orthodoxy but has little detail of the captives' experiences. To Colley, racism and sexism are the unforgivable crimes - that is code for White males! The British Empire was evil and its “victims” would have been perfect if it were not for us. These themes are still being imposed now as the beleaguered British people are forced to pay for them.
Her prejudices against the British Empire are exposed on page 374 and is the castes own ideology talking: "many people outside Britain" think: it was "about oppression, exploitation, violence, arrogance, slavery and racism...no less than an early Holocaust".
The elites long ago gave up the Conservative value of Noblesse Oblige, the obligations of the rulers to support those at the bottom, to favour other ethnic groups.
They talk of beating us by argument but are incapable of developing one and their inability to provide intellectual opposition to those of us who are trying to save our country was made clear in The Guardian of Tuesday 9th of June.
From the title “Is Fascism on the March Again?” to the final full stop we see the time-warped, paucity of thinking of anti- British historians. They talk and think in old-fashioned clichés. The question they were to answer was:” Does the election of two BNP MEPs and the success of the far right elsewhere in Europe mean we are facing the threat of fascism? Or is this just a protest vote that will quickly fade?” I am only looking at this country.
The exception was Michael Burleigh, Author of The Third Reich, A New History. “I don’t like all these stupid historical analogies – this is not a re-run of the 1930s. In some ways, history can box you in and limit your options. We live in a very different world, and these parties organise themselves in a very different way. Hitler didn’t Twitter.
A better approach is to take the BNP seriously. Don’t turn them into martyrs by banning them from the airwaves. Ask them about their other policies: how they would get us out of recession; what their foreign policy is. Launch an assault on the BNP brand, and don’t let them appropriate symbols of Britishness – such as the Spitfire they were using on their posters in this election.”
But he needs to understand that his group neither own those symbols nor can they deny them to others, and he must understand that the natives will revolt if constantly oppressed and denied their natural heritage in their own country. Or is this no longer our country? Do the academic elites think they are entitled to dispossess us?
Richard Overy , Professor of history at Exeter University and author of The Morbid Age: Britain Between the Wars.
“A loss of confidence in parliamentary institutions is characteristic of all periods when fascists have come to power – in Italy and Germany, for example – but on this occasion the BNP has not done especially well. People have preferred to vote for Ukip. It is essentially a protest vote at a moment of crisis in the political system. Parliamentary politics will eventually be restored, but almost certainly not under Gordon Brown."
The loss of confidence in our elites is because they are importing people to push us out of our communities and because they are against their own people.
Kathleen Burk, Professor of modern and contemporary history at University College London invoked old-fashioned negative images that multi-racialism was originally a reaction to. They still form the negative part of the ideology. I am wondering how old she is.
“If we think about Oswald Mosley’s Blackshirts, we shouldn’t be too apprehensive about where the BNP might go in the future. Even at their height, the entire membership of the British Union of Fascists could barely raise a single marching column. It is unfortunate that the BNP have won seats and some will see it as alarming, but I can’t see it spreading all over the country… I cannot imagine what cataclysm would have to happen for a far-right party not only to be able to grow but to win power in the UK. This is an extremely old country with old mores, and the great rump of the people are not going to be attracted by a far-right party.“
I was not born when Moseley’s pantomime party was walking around the east end in fancy dress, but look at the mindless cliches:”Far-right.” That is all the people who want a future for their children are worth – to be dismissed as far-right and thus do not deserve a decent life. The give-away to their callousness is: ” I cannot imagine what cataclysm would have to happen for a far-right party not only to be able to grow but to win power in the UK.” The cataclysm is people like her providing intellectual justification for our people to be dispossessed of our communities and denied our children their rightful heritage. Overwhelmed in schools and no room on council waiting lists because of the priority given to “asylum getters.”
The famous former supporter of the Soviet Union Eric Hobsbawm, Author of The Age of Extremes: The Short Twentieth Century (1914-1991), among others, shows his failure to keep up. He treats us to a litany of empty and dated cliches.
“It is not the threat from the extreme right that is the most striking characteristic of these elections, though clearly there is a shift to the right, and centre-right governments are likely to make more concessions to the far right. The real story is the crisis of the left … We have seen the demoralisation of the French left and a degree of disintegration of the left in Germany. Social democrats will need a new vision as well as a new constituency.” Yes, Eric, but the orthodox view of the world no longer fits reality and there is no one on your side capable of developing it. It is a dying ideology.
Joanna Bourke, Professor of history at Birkbeck College, London, gives a classic example of the Castes hatred of its own poor people.
We shouldn’t panic, though nor should we be complacent. The levels of racial hatred and antis-Semitism and all those things that the far right feed on are remarkably small in comparison with the past and in comparison with the rest of Europe and the United States. The far right has much more purchase in the US than it does in the UK, especially the religious right.
Here I tend to be much more optimistic about British institutions and about the ways they have managed these sorts of hatreds. What was interesting about Mosley in the 1930s is that our institutions did not give legitimacy to the claims of the far right. They didn’t make them into scapegoats or martyrs; they responded with the force of law in a fairly reasonable fashion. If you oppress them or deal with them heavy handedly, it only serves to unite them and justify them using force in return… Don’t censor or oppress the BNP. Marginalise and ridicule them. Ridicule is an underestimated weapon.
Its simple Joanna Bourke who is ridiculous. She talks of anti Semitism in its old-fashioned forms but she and her kind are importing future holocausts in Europe by immigration of Muslms. All across the country Muslim shops sell The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and these nonentities have not noticed. Did they not see thousands of Muslims march through European cities chanting “Jews to the gas”? Well, the media did cover it up but historians are excellent at research so they should get their facts right before providing the intellectual underpinning for this. They also demonise poor whites who try to assert themselves as fascists.
David Kynaston:, Research fellow at Kingston University and author of Austerity Britain, is still fighting the last war. Poor thing! It ended 64 years ago.
“As Nadezhda Mandelstam, wife of Russian poet Osip Mandelstam, said of Stalinism in her book Hope Against Hope, “Don’t think it can’t happen to you.” There are definite parallels between Germany in the prewar years and now, most obviously the economic crisis thatbsparked mass unemployment. The Wall Street Crash took place in 1929 but it wasn’t until January 1933 that Hitler became chancellor of Germany; I would suggest that we are a long way from seeing the worst of our own economic crisis and if we date the start as being September 2008 then we still have a while to go in which the far right could gain a stronghold.” People wanting rights in their own country s are dismissed as a potential fascist uprising. This shows how they oppress British working-classes.
Now comes their real fear. “More worryingly, the recession has been accompanied by a rise in populism and a loss of faith in democratic politics; the sort of people who, a generation ago, did not used to be cynical about politics now are. Worse still, people are not just indifferent to politics, they are ignorant about it: the level of hostility to intellectualism in this country is deeply depressing.”
When they invoke the term democracy it is to silence opposition with an apparently, superior morality. But they are opposing the democratic election of two MEPs. They are not really talking about Democracy=Demos, but are worried they we are no longer listening to them. They are worried about losing power.
“Somehow we need to find a way of exposing the BNP, while stopping it from manipulating the system to its advantage. It would help here if politicians from the main parties were more honest and treated the electorate like adults. It is clear from the budget forecasts that the country is basically bust, yet the Labour party carries on its “yah boo” politics of claiming it is not going to cut any public services while the Conservatives have fudged the whole issue on what they intend to do. Both stances are patronising and unsustainable. The public knows the country is bust and there are hard choices to make: it’s time the main parties allowed us to join in a grown-up debate about them.” By extension they mean keep British poor people down and themselves in power over them by words.
Norman Davies, Supernumerary fellow at Wolfson College, Oxford, and fellow of the British Academy. “Any comparisons with 1920s Germany are completely overstated. Fascism grew out of the crushing military defeat in which millions of Germans were killed and the moral humiliation of the Treaty of Versailles which held that Germany alone was responsible for the first world war. This was tantamount to saying that German families, who had done exactly the same as the British and Americans in sending their conscripted sons to fight, had killed their own children and was the catalyst for anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and the emergence of a far-right nationalist movement. Economic depression on its own would not have allowed fascism to flourish.
That does not mean we should be relaxed about the rise of the BNP. While Ukip thrives on the notion that the EU is the new Third Reich, the BNP is much more Anglo-centric; it wants to reclaim an imagined Albion dominated by white nationals. It is a party that is actually misnamed, for its essence is the English National party and, with the collapse of the Labour vote in Scotland giving the SNP an overwhelming majority, the break-up of the United Kingdom must be a possibility.”
So now we now: Our living in our own communities in peace with our own people in a homogenous society is derided as “ an imagined Albion dominated by white nationals” What a nice life of ease and comfort in beautiful Oxford colleges this hypocrite lives!
David Stevenson, Professor of international history at the LSE; author of The Penguin History of the First World War. “ The parallel I would make is not with the rise of fascism in the 1930s but with the success of Jean-Marie Le Pen in France in the 1980s. He made his breakthrough in areas where the French communist party had been strong. As the communists collapsed, Le Pen’s Front National came in and took over. Now, in the UK, a portion of the vote that traditionally went to the Labour party has gone to the BNP.”
The intelligentsia are always lecturing us, telling us what to think and arranging negative labels for us if we transgress. But what ideology are they promoting?
The above are historians and were asked a fascism but they exemplify the wider truth that the intelligentsia like the political class have run out of new ideas and take refuge from the situation in the past. They are still fighting the last war and have been left behind. They think the common people should be thinking and doing what they tell them and voting for their caste - Labour or Tory. The rulers are flailing around but unable to come up with new ideas to explain the contemporary situation, wondering how they can counter our revival to rescue our children from dispossession, unemployment, Muslim child-rapists and the loss of their women to imported ethnics. They can not counter this now, because too much of what they kept hidden has come out for them to hide. For years they have preached to us and bullied us but now we asserting ourselves.
They do not really mean Democracy, but want us to continue to defer to them while they act against our interests. In Democracy, Demos= is a voice for the people.
In this instance people are starting to support a party that is trying to articulate their concerns and you can not get more democratic than that. What the caste are upset about is people are turning away from them: they are losing their power and influence. They are saying carry on voting for our caste, leave it to us and invoking democracy to stop discussion and when that fails it is the political police battering patriotic people while allying with Muslims.
People are now speaking up for the section of the population that this kind despise: the white British people. Those who feel cheated and are ceasing to obey those in authority and resent their preferential treatment of other ethnic groups as exemplified in Harriet Harman’s Equality Bill, with their orthodoxy of anti-racism to cow them while their communities are destroyed, their children overwhelmed in their schools and their future jobs filled by cheap labour.
These, however, send their children to the best schools, live in fine, delightful areas and use nepotism to get their children top jobs as the Dimblebys’ did when they followed their famous father into television. Just look at The Spectator or The Telegraph to see the children of journalists – Wyatt, Waughs.
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I thought we should see what some “Caste” academics are. The intelligentsia are erudite and articulate when talking on comfortable subjects but when it comes to immigration and national identity they go to pieces and can not talk rationally. They become childish or avoid an objective analysis by retreating into the past.
This is Linda Colley Professor of History at Princeton and a Wolfson Prize winner; and historian, (3) showing her prejudices in her book, Captives: Britain, Empire, and the World, 1600-1850.
The book expresses contemporary orthodoxy but has little detail of the captives' experiences. To Colley, racism and sexism are the unforgivable crimes - that is code for White males! The British Empire was evil and its “victims” would have been perfect if it were not for us. These themes are still being imposed now as the beleaguered British people are forced to pay for them.
Her prejudices against the British Empire are exposed on page 374 and is the castes own ideology talking: "many people outside Britain" think: it was "about oppression, exploitation, violence, arrogance, slavery and racism...no less than an early Holocaust".
The elites long ago gave up the Conservative value of Noblesse Oblige, the obligations of the rulers to support those at the bottom, to favour other ethnic groups.
They talk of beating us by argument but are incapable of developing one and their inability to provide intellectual opposition to those of us who are trying to save our country was made clear in The Guardian of Tuesday 9th of June.
From the title “Is Fascism on the March Again?” to the final full stop we see the time-warped, paucity of thinking of anti- British historians. They talk and think in old-fashioned clichés. The question they were to answer was:” Does the election of two BNP MEPs and the success of the far right elsewhere in Europe mean we are facing the threat of fascism? Or is this just a protest vote that will quickly fade?” I am only looking at this country.
The exception was Michael Burleigh, Author of The Third Reich, A New History. “I don’t like all these stupid historical analogies – this is not a re-run of the 1930s. In some ways, history can box you in and limit your options. We live in a very different world, and these parties organise themselves in a very different way. Hitler didn’t Twitter.
A better approach is to take the BNP seriously. Don’t turn them into martyrs by banning them from the airwaves. Ask them about their other policies: how they would get us out of recession; what their foreign policy is. Launch an assault on the BNP brand, and don’t let them appropriate symbols of Britishness – such as the Spitfire they were using on their posters in this election.”
But he needs to understand that his group neither own those symbols nor can they deny them to others, and he must understand that the natives will revolt if constantly oppressed and denied their natural heritage in their own country. Or is this no longer our country? Do the academic elites think they are entitled to dispossess us?
Richard Overy , Professor of history at Exeter University and author of The Morbid Age: Britain Between the Wars.
“A loss of confidence in parliamentary institutions is characteristic of all periods when fascists have come to power – in Italy and Germany, for example – but on this occasion the BNP has not done especially well. People have preferred to vote for Ukip. It is essentially a protest vote at a moment of crisis in the political system. Parliamentary politics will eventually be restored, but almost certainly not under Gordon Brown."
The loss of confidence in our elites is because they are importing people to push us out of our communities and because they are against their own people.
Kathleen Burk, Professor of modern and contemporary history at University College London invoked old-fashioned negative images that multi-racialism was originally a reaction to. They still form the negative part of the ideology. I am wondering how old she is.
“If we think about Oswald Mosley’s Blackshirts, we shouldn’t be too apprehensive about where the BNP might go in the future. Even at their height, the entire membership of the British Union of Fascists could barely raise a single marching column. It is unfortunate that the BNP have won seats and some will see it as alarming, but I can’t see it spreading all over the country… I cannot imagine what cataclysm would have to happen for a far-right party not only to be able to grow but to win power in the UK. This is an extremely old country with old mores, and the great rump of the people are not going to be attracted by a far-right party.“
I was not born when Moseley’s pantomime party was walking around the east end in fancy dress, but look at the mindless cliches:”Far-right.” That is all the people who want a future for their children are worth – to be dismissed as far-right and thus do not deserve a decent life. The give-away to their callousness is: ” I cannot imagine what cataclysm would have to happen for a far-right party not only to be able to grow but to win power in the UK.” The cataclysm is people like her providing intellectual justification for our people to be dispossessed of our communities and denied our children their rightful heritage. Overwhelmed in schools and no room on council waiting lists because of the priority given to “asylum getters.”
The famous former supporter of the Soviet Union Eric Hobsbawm, Author of The Age of Extremes: The Short Twentieth Century (1914-1991), among others, shows his failure to keep up. He treats us to a litany of empty and dated cliches.
“It is not the threat from the extreme right that is the most striking characteristic of these elections, though clearly there is a shift to the right, and centre-right governments are likely to make more concessions to the far right. The real story is the crisis of the left … We have seen the demoralisation of the French left and a degree of disintegration of the left in Germany. Social democrats will need a new vision as well as a new constituency.” Yes, Eric, but the orthodox view of the world no longer fits reality and there is no one on your side capable of developing it. It is a dying ideology.
Joanna Bourke, Professor of history at Birkbeck College, London, gives a classic example of the Castes hatred of its own poor people.
We shouldn’t panic, though nor should we be complacent. The levels of racial hatred and antis-Semitism and all those things that the far right feed on are remarkably small in comparison with the past and in comparison with the rest of Europe and the United States. The far right has much more purchase in the US than it does in the UK, especially the religious right.
Here I tend to be much more optimistic about British institutions and about the ways they have managed these sorts of hatreds. What was interesting about Mosley in the 1930s is that our institutions did not give legitimacy to the claims of the far right. They didn’t make them into scapegoats or martyrs; they responded with the force of law in a fairly reasonable fashion. If you oppress them or deal with them heavy handedly, it only serves to unite them and justify them using force in return… Don’t censor or oppress the BNP. Marginalise and ridicule them. Ridicule is an underestimated weapon.
Its simple Joanna Bourke who is ridiculous. She talks of anti Semitism in its old-fashioned forms but she and her kind are importing future holocausts in Europe by immigration of Muslms. All across the country Muslim shops sell The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and these nonentities have not noticed. Did they not see thousands of Muslims march through European cities chanting “Jews to the gas”? Well, the media did cover it up but historians are excellent at research so they should get their facts right before providing the intellectual underpinning for this. They also demonise poor whites who try to assert themselves as fascists.
David Kynaston:, Research fellow at Kingston University and author of Austerity Britain, is still fighting the last war. Poor thing! It ended 64 years ago.
“As Nadezhda Mandelstam, wife of Russian poet Osip Mandelstam, said of Stalinism in her book Hope Against Hope, “Don’t think it can’t happen to you.” There are definite parallels between Germany in the prewar years and now, most obviously the economic crisis thatbsparked mass unemployment. The Wall Street Crash took place in 1929 but it wasn’t until January 1933 that Hitler became chancellor of Germany; I would suggest that we are a long way from seeing the worst of our own economic crisis and if we date the start as being September 2008 then we still have a while to go in which the far right could gain a stronghold.” People wanting rights in their own country s are dismissed as a potential fascist uprising. This shows how they oppress British working-classes.
Now comes their real fear. “More worryingly, the recession has been accompanied by a rise in populism and a loss of faith in democratic politics; the sort of people who, a generation ago, did not used to be cynical about politics now are. Worse still, people are not just indifferent to politics, they are ignorant about it: the level of hostility to intellectualism in this country is deeply depressing.”
When they invoke the term democracy it is to silence opposition with an apparently, superior morality. But they are opposing the democratic election of two MEPs. They are not really talking about Democracy=Demos, but are worried they we are no longer listening to them. They are worried about losing power.
“Somehow we need to find a way of exposing the BNP, while stopping it from manipulating the system to its advantage. It would help here if politicians from the main parties were more honest and treated the electorate like adults. It is clear from the budget forecasts that the country is basically bust, yet the Labour party carries on its “yah boo” politics of claiming it is not going to cut any public services while the Conservatives have fudged the whole issue on what they intend to do. Both stances are patronising and unsustainable. The public knows the country is bust and there are hard choices to make: it’s time the main parties allowed us to join in a grown-up debate about them.” By extension they mean keep British poor people down and themselves in power over them by words.
Norman Davies, Supernumerary fellow at Wolfson College, Oxford, and fellow of the British Academy. “Any comparisons with 1920s Germany are completely overstated. Fascism grew out of the crushing military defeat in which millions of Germans were killed and the moral humiliation of the Treaty of Versailles which held that Germany alone was responsible for the first world war. This was tantamount to saying that German families, who had done exactly the same as the British and Americans in sending their conscripted sons to fight, had killed their own children and was the catalyst for anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and the emergence of a far-right nationalist movement. Economic depression on its own would not have allowed fascism to flourish.
That does not mean we should be relaxed about the rise of the BNP. While Ukip thrives on the notion that the EU is the new Third Reich, the BNP is much more Anglo-centric; it wants to reclaim an imagined Albion dominated by white nationals. It is a party that is actually misnamed, for its essence is the English National party and, with the collapse of the Labour vote in Scotland giving the SNP an overwhelming majority, the break-up of the United Kingdom must be a possibility.”
So now we now: Our living in our own communities in peace with our own people in a homogenous society is derided as “ an imagined Albion dominated by white nationals” What a nice life of ease and comfort in beautiful Oxford colleges this hypocrite lives!
David Stevenson, Professor of international history at the LSE; author of The Penguin History of the First World War. “ The parallel I would make is not with the rise of fascism in the 1930s but with the success of Jean-Marie Le Pen in France in the 1980s. He made his breakthrough in areas where the French communist party had been strong. As the communists collapsed, Le Pen’s Front National came in and took over. Now, in the UK, a portion of the vote that traditionally went to the Labour party has gone to the BNP.”
The intelligentsia are always lecturing us, telling us what to think and arranging negative labels for us if we transgress. But what ideology are they promoting?
The above are historians and were asked a fascism but they exemplify the wider truth that the intelligentsia like the political class have run out of new ideas and take refuge from the situation in the past. They are still fighting the last war and have been left behind. They think the common people should be thinking and doing what they tell them and voting for their caste - Labour or Tory. The rulers are flailing around but unable to come up with new ideas to explain the contemporary situation, wondering how they can counter our revival to rescue our children from dispossession, unemployment, Muslim child-rapists and the loss of their women to imported ethnics. They can not counter this now, because too much of what they kept hidden has come out for them to hide. For years they have preached to us and bullied us but now we asserting ourselves.
They do not really mean Democracy, but want us to continue to defer to them while they act against our interests. In Democracy, Demos= is a voice for the people.
In this instance people are starting to support a party that is trying to articulate their concerns and you can not get more democratic than that. What the caste are upset about is people are turning away from them: they are losing their power and influence. They are saying carry on voting for our caste, leave it to us and invoking democracy to stop discussion and when that fails it is the political police battering patriotic people while allying with Muslims.
People are now speaking up for the section of the population that this kind despise: the white British people. Those who feel cheated and are ceasing to obey those in authority and resent their preferential treatment of other ethnic groups as exemplified in Harriet Harman’s Equality Bill, with their orthodoxy of anti-racism to cow them while their communities are destroyed, their children overwhelmed in their schools and their future jobs filled by cheap labour.
These, however, send their children to the best schools, live in fine, delightful areas and use nepotism to get their children top jobs as the Dimblebys’ did when they followed their famous father into television. Just look at The Spectator or The Telegraph to see the children of journalists – Wyatt, Waughs.
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