Wednesday, 16 January 2008

The Buried Truth - Islam and the Nazis

Back in June 2007 I wrote about the Satanic Verses and why the Moslems were so determined to prevent the real meaning of them getting out to the public at large.

Well it seems Muhammad who as we know made up the religion on the fly, said a few things that calls into question the validity of the whole cult. If thinking people were allowed to study these verses the whole Cult would unravel and their religious/political leaders be unemployed and control of their countries lost to them. You can read about them here and after you have done that return and read the following. The truth that Islam is nothing more than a cult build on lies will not be concealed for much longer. Watch the Turnips Twist.

And while your at it. Go check this video here about Islam and the Nazis.

Indiana Jones meets the Da Vinci Code

Islam watchers blogged all weekend about news that a secret archive of ancient Islamic texts had surfaced after 60 years of suppression. Andrew Higgins' Wall Street Journal report that the photographic record of Koranic manuscripts, supposedly destroyed during World War II but occulted by a scholar of alleged Nazi sympathies, reads like a conflation of the Da Vinci Code with Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail.

The Da Vinci Code offered a silly fantasy in which Opus Dei, homicidal monks and twisted billionaires chased after proof that Christianity is a hoax. But the story of the photographic archive of the Bavarian Academy of Sciences, now ensconced in a Berlin vault, is a case of life imitating truly dreadful art. It even has Nazis. "I hate those guys!" as Indiana Jones said.

No one is going to produce proof that Jesus Christ did not rise from the grave three days after the Crucifixion, of course. Humankind will choose to believe or not that God revealed Himself in this fashion. But Islam stands at risk of a Da Vinci Code effect, for in Islam, God's self-revelation took the form not of the Exodus, nor the revelation at Mount Sinai, nor the Resurrection, but rather a book, namely the Koran. The Encyclopaedia of Islam (1982) observes, "The closest analogue in Christian belief to the role of the Koran in Muslim belief is not the Bible, but Christ." The Koran alone is the revelatory event in Islam.

What if scholars can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the Koran was not dictated by the Archangel Gabriel to the Prophet Mohammad during the 7th century, but rather was redacted by later writers drawing on a variety of extant Christian and Jewish sources? That would be the precise equivalent of proving that the Jesus Christ of the Gospels really was a composite of several individuals, some of whom lived a century or two apart.

It has long been known that variant copies of the Koran exist, including some found in 1972 in a paper grave at Sa'na in Yemen, the subject of a cover story in the January 1999 Atlantic Monthly. Before the Yemeni authorities shut the door to Western scholars, two German academics, Gerhard R Puin and H C Graf von Bothmer, made 35,000 microfilm copies, which remain at the University of the Saarland. Many scholars believe that the German archive, which includes photocopies of manuscripts as old as 700 AD, will provide more evidence of variation in the Koran.

The history of the archive reads like an Islamic version of the Da Vinci Code. It is not clear why its existence was occulted for sixty years, or why it has come to light now, or when scholars will have free access to it. Higgins' account begins,
On the night of April 24, 1944, British air force bombers hammered a former Jesuit college here housing the Bavarian Academy of Science. The 16th-century building crumpled in the inferno. Among the treasures lost, later lamented Anton Spitaler, an Arabic scholar at the academy, was a unique photo archive of ancient manuscripts of the Koran.

The 450 rolls of film had been assembled before the war for a bold venture: a study of the evolution of the Koran, the text Muslims view as the verbatim transcript of God's word. The wartime destruction made the project "outright impossible", Mr Spitaler wrote in the 1970s.

Mr Spitaler was lying. The cache of photos survived, and he was sitting on it all along. The truth is only now dribbling out to scholars - and a Koran research project buried for more than 60 years has risen from the grave. Why Spitaler concealed the archive is unknown, but Koranic critics who challenge the received Muslim account suspect his motives. Higgins reports,
"The whole period after 1945 was poisoned by the Nazis," says Gunter Luling, a scholar who was drummed out of his university in the 1970s after he put forward heterodox theories about the Koran's origins. His doctoral thesis argued that the Koran was lifted in part from Christian hymns. Blackballed by Spitaler, Luling lost his teaching job and launched a fruitless six-year court battle to be reinstated. Feuding over the Koran, he says, "ruined my life".

He wrote books and articles at home, funded by his wife, who took a job in a pharmacy. Asked by a French journal to write a paper on German Arabists, Luling went to Berlin to examine wartime records. Germany's prominent postwar Arabic scholars, he says, "were all connected to the Nazis".

Why were the Nazis so eager to suppress Koranic criticism? Most likely, the answer lies in their alliance with Islamist leaders, who shared their hatred of the Jews and also sought leverage against the British in the Middle East. The most recent of many books on this subject, Matthias Kuntzel's Jihad and Jew-Hatred, was reviewed January 13 in the New York Times by Jeffrey Goldberg, who reports
Kuntzel makes a bold and consequential argument: the dissemination of European models of anti-Semitism among Muslims was not haphazard, but an actual project of the Nazi Party, meant to turn Muslims against Jews and Zionism. He says that in the years before World War II, two Muslim leaders in particular willingly and knowingly carried Nazi ideology directly to the Muslim masses. They were Haj Amin al-Husseini, the mufti of Jerusalem, and the Egyptian proto-Islamist Hassan al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood.
It may be a very long time before the contents of the Bavarian archive are known. Some Koranic critics, notably the pseudonymous scholar "Ibn Warraq", claim that Professor Angelika Neuwirth, the archive's custodian, has denied access to scholars who stray from the traditional interpretation. Neuwirth admits that she has had the archive since 1990. She has 18 years of funding to study the Bavarian archive, and it is not clear who will have access to it.

When the Atlantic Monthly story on Koranic criticism appeared nine years ago, author Toby Lester expected early results from the Yemeni finds.
Von Bothmer, Puin, and other scholars will finally have a chance to scrutinize the texts and to publish their findings freely - a prospect that thrills Puin. "So many Muslims have this belief that everything between the two covers of the Koran is just God's unaltered word," he says. "They like to quote the textual work that shows that the Bible has a history and did not fall straight out of the sky, but until now the Koran has been out of this discussion. The only way to break through this wall is to prove that the Koran has a history too. The Sana'a fragments will help us to do this.
In 2005, Puin published a collection of articles under the title, Die dunklen Anfange. Neue Forschungen zur Entstehung und fruhen Geschichte des Islam ("The dark beginnings: new research on the origin and early history of Islam," Hans Schiller Verlag, 2005). This drew on the work of the pseudonymous German philologist "Christoph Luxenburg", who sought to prove that incomprehensible passages in the Koran were written in Syriac-Aramaic rather than Arabic. Luxenburg's thesis became notorious for explaining that the "virgins" provided to Islamic jihadis in paradise were only raisins. The Koran, according to the research of Puin and his associates, copied a great deal of extant Christian material.

Apart from the little group at the University of the Saarland and a handful of others, though, the Western Academy is loathe to go near the issue. In the United States, where Arab and Islamic Studies rely on funding from the Gulf States, an interest in Koranic criticism is a failsafe way to commit career suicide.

Neuwirth has led the attack on "Christoph Luxenburg" and other Koranic critics who dispute the traditional Muslim account. According to Higgins, "Ms Neuwirth, the Berlin Koran expert, and Mr Marx, her research director, have tried to explain the project to the Muslim world in trips to Iran, Turkey, Syria and Morocco. When a German newspaper trumpeted their work last fall on its front page and predicted that it would 'overthrow rulers and topple kingdoms', Mr Marx called Arab television network al-Jazeera and other media to deny any assault on the tenets of Islam."

Despite her best efforts to reassure Islamic opinion, Higgins reports, she has stepped on landmines herself. "Ms Neuwirth, though widely regarded as respectful of Islamic tradition, got sideswiped by Arab suspicion of Western scholars. She was fired from a teaching post in Jordan, she says, for mentioning a radical revisionist scholar during a lecture in Germany."

The story thus far recalls the ending of another Indiana Jones film (Raiders of the Lost Ark), in which the Ark of the Covenant is filed away in an enormous warehouse, presumably never to be touched again. The Muslim world will continue to treat Koranic criticism as an existential risk, and apply whatever pressure is required to discourage it - albino monks presumably included.

But that is not the end of the matter. The Islamic world is forced to adopt an openly irrational stance, employing its power to intimidate scholars and frustrate the search for truth. It is impossible for Muslims to propose a dialogue with Western religions, as 38 Islamic scholars did in an October 13 letter to Pope Benedict XVI and other Christian leaders, and rule the subject of text criticism out of the discussion.

Precisely for this reason, Church leaders see little basis for a dialogue with Islam. Jean-Louis Cardinal Tauran, who directs the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, told the French daily La Croix, "Muslims do not accept discussion about the Koran, because they say it was written under the dictates of God. With such an absolutist interpretation, it's difficult to discuss the contents of the faith."

Throughout the Internet, Islamist sites denounce the work of a handful of marginalized scholars as evidence of a plot by Christian missionaries to sabotage Islam. What the Muslim world cannot conceal is its vulnerability and fear in the face of Koranic criticism. In the great battle for converts through the Global South, this may turn out to be a paralyzing disadvantage.



Sir Henry Morgan said...

Off topic I know - but you're all going to love this one. And as Sheik Yermami says - this being in Burnley - this guy has balls.


Heh heh.

najistani said...

Apart from its dubious origin (would you trust anything written by a murderer, bandit and paedophile?), the Koran contain three classes of contradictions:

1 Internal contradictions: Verses contradicting each other or the laws of logic

2 External errors: Verses contradicting the facts of history or science

3 Verses contradicting the earlier revelations

Wolfblood said...

Have a look at this -

Now you know the truth!

yorkielass said...

Interesting post GA.
Whenever i think of the qu'ran i recall some scholar saying part was from the Bible. part from the Jewish Torah.
That is was written down many years after mohammed died.
Think about it.he was some nomadic peasants with epilespsy unable to read or write would any God chose an idiot to give any message to?
When Kunzel was due to speak in Leeds university regarding the links with nazi Germany and Islam The muslim students threatened to cause trouble so the lecture never took place.
This is a great fear of muslims and islam that the British people will realise the true Nazis are living within this country protected by the British Government also in their employ.

Anyone doubting these facts go to
There you can see and read all about the allience with Nazi Germany and islam.
We here give suckor to groups involved in the slaughter of British soldiers in Egypt The nazi muslim brotherhood.

Amin Al Husseini Meets Hitler in Berlin During WWII

Hitler was reportedly content with deporting the Jews out of Europe to Palestine. Husseini perceived this as a threat to his stronghold in Palestine and pushed successfully for the extermination of the European Jews.


Christian Serbian Genocide

Husseini’s Personal Project [xxvi]





Amin Al Husseini meets Croat Nazi A.Artukovic and M.Budak during WWII.
April 25th. Amin Al-Husseini is made chief architect [xxvii] of Nazi offensive in Bosnia: Serbian-Cyrillic alphabet outlawed. Orthodox Serbs forced to wear Blue armband. Jewish Serbs forced to wear Yellow armband.

While in Bosnia, Amin Al-Husseini takes the title “Protector of Islam”. One hundred thousand (100,000) Bosnian Muslims join the Nazi ranks. They seek Nazi approval to establish autonomous Nazi protectorate for Bosnian Muslims.

Amin Al-Husseini approves the Pejani Plan, calling for the extermination of the Serbian population. Nazi Germany refuses to implement the Pejani plan.

Bosnian ethnic cleansing under Amin al Husseini:

. Orthodox Christian Serbs: 200,000 killed

. Jewish Bosnians: 22,000 killed

. Gypsies: over 40,000 killed

Husseini’s legacy of hatred is a major factor in today’s Bosnia/Herzegovina conflict against the Serbs and their leader Milosevic.

Proof that the badge worn by all jews in Germany the star of David to mark them out was an islamic idea not Hitlers.
Both Christians and Jews wore colours to mark them out in islamic ruled areas.

Churchill said Fascism would return in the guise of anti Fascism.
Prof Tariq Ramadan islamist stated recently that the demonisation of what he called the far right has now been detroyed in Europe.
Demonisation...used to go to war on a false pretext with Iraq.Yugoslavia and Afghanistan all three wars taking the lives of British troops.
Add a few more deaths to the 150 million socialists have caused in recent times.

najistani said...

Unfortunately, merely demonstrating the bogus nature of the koran will not be sufficient to destroy Islam. The vast majority of the world's Muslims are inbred, retarded, illiterate, illogical and hence impermeable to reason. They live in a pre-rational tribal society where loyalty to one's tribe, or the larger tribe of the Ummah, trumps all other considerations such as truth, reason, justice etc.

Also, the mumbo-jumbo of the koran provides the justification for a self-perpetuating power-structure. At the top are the evil, manipulative Ulama - the Muslim priesthood such as the baby-raping Ayatollah Khomeini.

Next to the top are the vast mass of Muslim males, who can be turned into a seething mob of savages by the ranting of the Ulema.

Lower down in the hierarchy are Muslim women, who are sex objects whose life and testimony is worth half that of a Muslim man's.

Next are the Christians, who are dhimmi slaves to be taxed and exploited by their Muslim masters.

At the bottom of the heap are the Jews, who must be exterminated ("The Muslims shall kill the Jews. Even though Jews hide behind a big rock or a tree and the rock or tree shall call on the Muslim saying: O Muslim there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him")

Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs etc are somewhere between Christians and Jews in this hierarchy - on a good day they may manage to keep their heads on their shoulders

Since the koran supports this advantageous power structure, and promises rape and pillage when the time is right, few Muslim men will be tempted to abandon their cult purely by the power of reason - especially given the consequences of apostasy.

Something stronger than rational debate will be deeded to defeat Islam.

Anonymous said...


"There are Afghans, Eritreans, Somalis, Iraqis, Sudanese - a United Nations of desperation. They are all clinging to the hope that soon, very soon, they will be in the UK. But while they are hoping to change their own lives they also adversely affect others" ...too freaking right they do!!!

Not so much a United Nations as a United Ummah. Afghans, Eritreans, Somalis, Iraqis, Sudanese are all Muslims! Desperation for what? Rape and pillage? These Jihad-crazed psychos have passed through up to a dozen safe countries before they get to the Channel, so why are they all converging on Londonistan?

ivan said...

I SEE A BAD MOON ARISING...hope you have got your things together.hope you are quite prepared to die.looks like were in for nasty weather....
why are they all descending on londonistan ? ive always said they will wait until they have sufficiant numbers before uprising,we know it is coming

Helena said...

Gordon Brown wants to harvest our spare parts when we die, even without written consent, no doubt to help all those immigrants who arrive carrying one disease or another. But what if you're a Muslim?
As usual on planet Ummah there are grave concerns, more grave than ours about being butchered post mortem.
Did you know that at least 15% of those waiting for donors are "Asian"?
MPACUK knows it and welcomes ideas from Muslims.
Whats the agenda here, donating organs or donating to "Asians" only?
I'd sooner be fed to pigs than allow one drop of blood to be transfused to any of them.

Nobody's lemming said...

Its very murky with sometimes tenuous connections. Yes I can see the Nazis need for employing the Islamic masses as cannon fodder, despite their dubious qualities as soldiers, especially toward the end of the war when their own elite armies had all but been destroyed, and also from an economic standpoint the same wealth that now corrupts and backs our own mainstream political parties today must have been very tempting to the Nazis back then, especially with Germany's shortage of oil (hence Hitlers need to occupy the Caucasus). But apart from that, I cant see Islam being anything other than an embaressment to the racially aware Nazi leaders, and had the tide of the war turned in Germany's favour, I doubt very much if Islam's resources would have been courted as much as taken by force. I think this is very much a case of the blurring of history to suit political ends, which is happening right in front of our noses on a daily basis. The more I see of life the more I realise that nothing good comes from the East (except for Turkish delight of course!).