Wednesday, 28 November 2007

The Red Arrows and UKNDA


Please sign the petition to save them

A quick heads up on two links that I think you should follow up on.

The Red Arrows are under threat from the Governments spending cuts. The government always uses the excuse that money must be found and saved. Saved for what? To build more homes for the colonisers? The Red Arrows are a flag flown round the world and reminds us of the sacrifices made by the The Royal Flying Corp in the First World War and the heroism of "The Few" of the 2nd World War. They also entertain millions of people with their daring displays. There is a petition to retain them here. Please sign it.


The final link is to the website of the United Kingdom National Defence Association (UKNDA) which is an organisation setup on behalf of the Tri-Services of the Royal Navy, British Army and the Royal Air Force. Their Mission Statement is simple:
To campaign for sufficient, appropriate and fully funded Armed Forces that the United Kingdom needs to defend effectively this Country, its people, their vital interests and security at home and throughout the world.
I urge you to support both causes.

The British National Party certainly will. A future BNP Government would restore the Regiments that have been deliberately destroyed by the Lib/Lab/con traitor politicians and ensure that the men of these Regiments have nothing but the best in the way of equipment should they ever be called upon to risk their lives for you, me and Our Country.

They would rebuild the Finest Navy the world has ever seen. A Royal Navy that once again acts as an Ambassador for Our Country around the world and would patrol our recovered Fishing Grounds.

Re-open the historic airfields and bring back the Squadrons of the Royal Air Force that have defended Our Skies and protected Our Ships and men in times of need. The following email were sent and received from UKNDA in response to an enquiry about their stance towards the BNP.

Dear Mr Muxworthy,

I have just visited your website and think it is a wonderful idea.

I run a Blog called The Home of The Green Arrow that has a fairly large readership of ex-servicemen. I know because I served 12 years in the Royal Navy and although not a member of the British National Party , I support them 100%.

I was just about to promote your organisation when I wondered what your views on the BNP were and wondered if you would be kind enough to enlighten me.

Please forgive me for not giving my real name, as you will appreciate from the contents of my site, I have had several threats made against myself and my family from the followers of the Religion of Peace and organisations such as the UAF.

Your reply will not be published without your permission. You have my word.

Yours sincerely,


Green Arrow


Dear "Green Arrow"
The UKNDA's views on any political party is that we are strictly apolitical and, as an Association, have no views on any political party. Our purpose is only as stated on our web-site and we have no party political stance whatsoever.
If you agree with and support the stated purpose of the UKNDA then you would be most welcome to join us - but that decision is yours for you to take.
You may publicise this reply if you wish to do so,
Yours sincerely -
John Muxworthy
Cdr, RN Chairman & CE UKNDA


24 comments:

Anonymous said...

GA: Do you think that armed services would be proud to have your support as a BNP member? Did you know that all sorts of people who do not fit your indigenous profile are members of the armed services? Given this, are you suggesting that those people are included or excluded from your support? (eg is their affiliation to the armed services more important to you than the colour of their skin, their ethnicity or their religious identity?) Finally, what do you say to fellow armed service members who protect their country, have made their allegiances clear and STILL work towards protecting other's human rights too and have no problem at all with migration in or out of the country, or with assylm seekers or with the rich diverse ethnic and cultural tapestries that make up this country?

Anonymous said...

GA: Do you think that armed services would be proud to have your support as a BNP member? Did you know that all sorts of people who do not fit your indigenous profile are members of the armed services? Given this, are you suggesting that those people are included or excluded from your support? (eg is their affiliation to the armed services more important to you than the colour of their skin, their ethnicity or their religious identity?) Finally, what do you say to fellow armed service members who protect their country, have made their allegiances clear and STILL work towards protecting other's human rights too and have no problem at all with migration in or out of the country, or with assylm seekers or with the rich diverse ethnic and cultural tapestries that make up this country?

BFB said...

Troll,

Stop answering questions that are impossible to answer. How on earth can GA possibly know what the armed services think of his BNP membership? The 'armed services' consist of many thousands of individuals with a wide range of political opinions. I personally know several army members who support the BNP.

Stop trying to drag these threads down to your pathetic troll-like level.

Anonymous said...

I guess Labour see it like this, what is the point in having armed services to defend us from attack by other nations when the real enemies have been let in by the back door and are now classed, in Noo Labours eyes anyway, as British citizens. So lets save the money wasted on keeping a redundant armed force on appeassing the enemy within.. Tone and Gords words, not mine!

The Green Arrow said...

From the sidelines, the True Brits seem to be sweeping the board with the red troll. With regards to servicemen, and ex-servicemen and the BNP, I can tell you that a very LARGE percentage of them DO support the BNP. Join their forums and discover for yourself.

Meanwhile here is an email I received several days ago in response to an inquiry.
Dear "Green Arrow"

The UKNDA's views on any political party is that we are strictly apolitical and, as an Association, have no views on any political party. Our purpose is only as stated on our web-site and we have no party political stance whatsoever.

If you agree with and support the stated purpose of the UKNDA then you would be most welcome to join us - but that decision is yours for you to take.

You may publicise this reply if you wish to do so,

Yours sincerely -

John Muxworthy

Cdr, RN Chairman & CE UKNDA

The Green Arrow said...

Anon, when I read in your post "rich diverse ethnic and cultural tapestries that make up this country?" I fell on the floor laughing.

Anonymous said...

Phil,

I've just sussed out what her job is.
She's one of those annoying prats that ring you in the middle of doing something useful to ask a load of stupid questions for their equally barmy market research polls

Q) do you post on blogs where you are not wanted..
a) 50 times a day
b) 10 times a day
c) once a day
d) never, I know where I'm not wanted

BFB said...

Anon,

LOL...I think you've hit the nail on the head! Who else would employ her?

Anonymous said...

Why are you bothered about my job....do you have time to be thinking about that?! Goodness me! Your cause is so urgent that you have time to daydream about what other people are doing with their days?! Wow. It really is that easy to distract you! My job is irrelevant to the debate. End your fascination with meaningless details and think of something useful to support the BNP!

Anonymous said...

GA: I know, i thought it would make you laugh:)

BFB said...

Anon:"Why are you bothered about my job?"

We're not: we're just surprised you had one!

BFB said...

"Goodness me!"

You say that quite a lot, don't you, TROLL?

Is there a reason?

Do you think it makes you come across all innocent and girly?

BFB said...

I know, If I throw in the occasional "Goodness me" these pathetic morons will think I'm a sweet old lady...

Not 'Moi', Troll, I know all the scams.

Anonymous said...

You have posted so much overbearing waffle on here and on Phil's site, (which I believe you said you wouldn't visit, but appear to be unable to stay away from) most of it extolling your own perceived higher intellect and virtues. (YOU actually mentioned your job in one post)

Don't flatter yourself that I have spent ANY time pondering over your job. The fact that most of your crud is of an overwhelmingly questioning nature, that is, when you're not trying to belittle the level of intelligence of others here or name calling. The frequency and predictability of your rambling drivel does not leave any of us time to forget you exist.

I can assure you of one thing, I do not think about you AT ALL, other than when having no other choice than to plough through your garbage to be able to follow the comments thread intelligibly.

"Stop answering (should read asking) questions that are impossible to answer"
The above remark by Phil is what prompted my response, as I equated his remark immediately to the stupid phone polls that are the bane of most peoples lives and as the cap seemed to fit I thought you might as well wear it.

Anonymous said...

Anon: My personal details are indeed irrelevant to you so dont bother to mention them. Why dont you stick to the points and arguments you are trying to raise? You cant answer questions...hmmm - Well youve got no buisness in mobilising as a political party if you cannot even do that. Your efforts here are shaming the BNP party because you reveal your grosse ignorance and inability to engage in debate.

I have the perfect right to disagree with name calling. Name calling is unproductive, and worse for me and others who are still trying to learn as to whether you have a point or not, it reveals the shoddy foundation of the commenters' arguments (because its all they have left).

If phil finds the questions impossible to answer, he should think twice before engaging in debates that are above his frustration level. Why does he need you to step in and talk for him? I thought he was against that notion and said that people can speak for themselves. Unless he asked you to intervene on his behalf, you are patronising him too. If he did ask you to step in, then hes no buisness trying to engage here in the first place in such rude and provocative ways.

I am delighted that you are not spending time thinking about me. In fact I plea to you not to think about me but to think instead about the postings on this site and what really motivates people when they are writing them.

Anon, Im not interested in whatever response you have to Phil's blatant frustration. Your external referencing is not relevant to the debates here!

There, only a couple of questions. Even you should be able to manage that.

BFB said...

Troll,

Tribalism. Perfectly normal, or what?

Are you capable of answering a question?

Anonymous said...

"Unless he asked you to intervene on his behalf"

I wouldn't dream of such a thing, Phil is more than capabale of speaking for himself as you have discovered, and he knows me well enough to know that in no way would I be patronising of him.

You would try the patience of a saint, so I don't condemn Phil in the slightest for biting back in whichever manner he chooses to.
I have no intentions of answering your questions (the topic ones) because I really can't be bothered and you aren't interested in anyone's thoughts anyway, you are out to extract as much fuel as possible from our words, to stoke your twisted, condescending little mind.

"think instead about the postings on this site and what really motivates people when they are writing them"

I think we are pretty much all in tune with one another on here, with the exception of you of course. Motivation I would have thought, was self explanatory, when on topic, all other comments are for entertainment value, that's what like minded people do, they get on well together generally and take pleasure from each others company, providing some entertainment along the way. You are certainly providing us with more than our fair share of material for that pursuit of late.

PS I'm not a political party, (or were you referring to us collectively) I do support one though, guess which.

BTW your blatant snobbery give's you away, people of true class don't need to prove to anyone who they are and don't, only social climbers try to do that

BFB said...

Troll,

Tribalism: right/wrong, good/bad, acceptable/unacceptable?

C'mon GOD, the human race needs your approval/disapproval!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous:
If you are unable to discuss the subjects of debate, why on earth are you here? Only to justify your obvious and blatant patronising of the short-fused-overly-frustrated Phil? You are so patronising to him that he is probably too subordinate to you to even realise it. So he bites back (as you put it) with personalised commentary and name-calling...does that mean that he is justified or does it just mean that he cannot stick to topic and address the challenges?

As you correctly say, so far, in the majority, you folks back the policies of the BNP. I dont. I can and I have challenged your policies and your justifications (which are pathetic by the way).

I have not engaged in snobbery but again, how patronising of you to suggest that just because I am working class in my background, that I cannot speak articulately and refrain from name calling 'unless' I am a snob. I dont have to justify my class, my gender, my age, my occupation, my sexuality or ANYTHING else to you and most importantly, its not relevant to you. Stop blathering on about your inability to penetrate the personal aspects of my life and start addressing the questions and challenges to your discriminatory policies regarding migration. If you cannot do this anon, get back to your backslapping and let someone else have a go.

Anonymous said...

Troll :Stop de-railing the threads and stay on topic!!!Or better still take your pre-programmed rhetoric and increasing hostility elsewhere.Your repetitive rants and antagonising tone are starting to grate and you really are quite boring.
btw How's business.Slack it seems.

BFB said...

Troll,

Answer the question!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 1732: Perhaps you are interpreting my comments as pre-programmed because they are the perfect match for your pre-programmed racism? They are certainly doing their job in terms of exposing your complete lack of ability to articulate your views. Moreover, your personal comments are irrelevant and absolutely nothing to do with the BNP cause. If you get so frustrated with a few questions, how are you going to accommodate all of those who disagree wtih your racism and all the "non indigenious" people into your white country in your own personal utopia? What measures will you be taking against us?

BFB: I have addressed your questionning in another thread. You go find it. Run along now.

Anonymous said...

Troll/Garside:My personal comments are irrelevant,i don't know you seem to enjoy them when i post on your uaf site.

UAF GUIDELINES FOR POSTING.nazi/racist/fascist are mandatory when expressing an opinion slurs/fabricated truths/bullshit are optional but encouraged.

ps:I see you received a glowing report on the maryport muppet blog.

bye bye

Anonymous said...

"If you are unable to discuss the subjects of debate, why on earth are you here?"
Why are you here?
The posts GA makes do not generally need discussing they speak for themselves. I don't usually find the need to post but your persistant attacks on people force off topic responses. You are the one that instigates this. To prove my point take a look at comments made on topics before your arrival here and see the difference.

"Only to justify your obvious and blatant patronising of the short-fused-overly-frustrated Phil? "
Do you want to answer that one Phil ?

"I have challenged your policies and your justifications (which are pathetic by the way). "
Pray tell how you come to that conclusion, without resorting to the usual, "they're racist" psycho-babble.

"I have not engaged in snobbery but again, how patronising of you to suggest that just because I am working class in my background,"
I don't recall you ever mentioning your class, in your world there shouldn't be class anyway, class isn't equal or fair is it.
Your every comment, your entire persona reeks of snobbery, the signature of the working class who aspire to be something they aren't. Nothing but social climbers Now how do you think I came to that conclusion, it stuck out like a sore thumb.

"that I cannot speak articulately and refrain from name calling 'unless' I am a snob.""
It was nothing to do with your ability to communicate articulately or lack of the use of four letter words,
It was your extremely patronisng and personal insults towards several people and the BNP following in general that screamed SNOB

"Stop blathering on about your inability to penetrate the personal aspects of my life"
Inability to penetrate ( that's one Phil would love to answer I'm sure,) but no. my analysis through observation of the way you handle and respond to comments was, I think, what you refer to.

"start addressing the questions and challenges to your discriminatory policies regarding migration"
Discriminatory, yes, but not in the sense you like to attach to that word..
The majority of the native British peoples have the absolute right to CHOOSE and determine who if anyone is allowed onto these islands by referendum and not by a minority of the population sitting in Wesminster who daily are are taking us into a totalitarian police state. End of story

So if you don't like what the majority of the British people want and whether you like it or not we are in the majority, so up sticks and migrate yourself and take your wonderful diversity with you. Saudi would suit you quite nicely, I'm sure Your views would be well tollerated there.