Tuesday, 4 December 2007

The mentality of the real UAF

The UAF - The Real Fascists

Just thought that some of you fence sitters out there might like to know about the mindset of the kind of people that are mainstays in the Urinate against Freedom(UAF) mob.

The following posts are from one of their sites and show clearly their attitude towards Free Speech and the actions they believe should be taken against anyone who disagrees with them.

In no particular order I cut n paste the following:
Im 13. What do you want me to do, go out and throw things at all the fascists i see?
Oh come on Fawkes, cut him some slack. Not everyone is built for fighting, others are better for the movement "behind the lines" doing "propaganda"/entertainment work. I guess, I'm just not a fan of what I see as armchair warriors.
As i said, im only 13 years old...That doesnt mean im an "armchair warrior", that means i will get killed if i try to fight a grown fascist! What do you want me to do?
Until im ready to fight, im focusing on internet propaganda.
Actually, i work out every day to prepare myself for fighting when i get older. I am prepared to fight for my views, but when im 13, i dont think Fawkes should expect me to go around beating up fascists.But as i said, i am preparing myself for fighting.
You dont even have racist folk in your school you can beat on?
I will be honest, I have not busted any heads for at least 4 years. I have broken my hand too many times from fights and can no longer punch anyone without breaking it again. And so I avoid fights now.
I'm a boxer, so I hear ya. I've been lucky enough to not have broken my hands yet, but I've been around it plenty, which is why I always recommend that in street fights people use open palm strikes as much as possible.
Yeah, but then it is hard to knock someone out. When I fought, I tried to hit hard and fast so that I wouldn't have to fight long. If I couldn't knock them out I went for the balls. I had one time the guy just brushed it off like he had no balls. I ended up having my cheek bone broken.
Well, I have one conservative kid in my class, and we often beat him up.But i dont film it and put it out on YouTube though...
I know the principles of fascism...If I didnt, why do you think I hate it so much?And I dont think fighting is funny. I think that the only way of combating fascism is by confronting it physically.
Even is its fake its still funny too see ow a fucking fascist getting a beatdown by Antifa's.
I was thinking about hacking as a possible form of attack, give them some serious web problems, theres plenty of sites out there... Then theres the more drastic solutions, violence etc. Again theres more sites out there, however i beleive that this is a last resort, and would ask everybody to try hacking etc first.

Interesting reading. The true face, the ugly face of the UAF, revealed as clearly as the real face of Dorian in the ending of the book, The Picture of Dorian Gray.

UPDATE

I am grateful to the excellent True British news site ukTabloid for highlighting the following corroboration of the above. They also point us to:

From the Socialist Website UK
Tuesday 4 December 2007

Why there must be no free speech for Nazis

'Mere words are not enough to defeat them – they must also be physically confronted and excluded from public space.'
'And our resistance should not be confined to legal or constitutional means – we have to build the broadest possible movement that can physically stop the Nazis from organising.'
If this is not inciting violence, then I don't know what is. The UAF are as much about democracy and freedom of speech as are the Religion of Peace. Two sides of the same coin.



16 comments:

Anonymous said...

who gives a damn? are you asking moderates to join your camp because you take a more supreme position to them? stop whining and get on with BNP policies!

yorkielass said...

03 Dec 2007 19:18 GMT | Permanent Link | Cosmos
The signs are all there for anyone to see, and time is getting short for action. So writes Michael Nenonen on Global Research.

Reading this article, I have drawn the same conclusions with the European Commission, a fascist state in the making, drawing in everyone around, slicing away one by one at our freedoms, until we reach the point of no return.

Wolf’s short but meticulously documented book shows that what is happening in America has indeed happened many times before, not in the United States, but rather in places like Chile, Italy, Russia, and Germany. In each case, people couldn’t understand why they didn’t recognize where they were heading before they passed the point of no return.

She makes the comment that unfortunately, during the shift opposition politicians and activists still tend to perceive the world through a democratic frame of reference, and this prevents them from seeing that their opponents are no longer operating within this frame. As the opposition is tying its boxing gloves, the fascists are breaking out the machetes.

When we look at our own government at the National level, and the European Commission at the Empire level, we can clearly see the comparisons.

But I leave it to you to read the article and draw your own conclusions.

When we all get to realise that we need a massive step change to reverse this movement towards totalitarian states, the Libertarians of this world will be taken far more seriously.

from the pjc journal today!

Anonymous said...

yorkielass shouldn't you be in the kitchen leaving politics to us men?

najistani said...

Troll's back

yorkielass. said...

The trouble with that is too many men are too interested in footie by the time they notice that a problem exists everyones ass will be stuck in the air.
Have you ever been dragged in by communist police and questioned which tends to get one interested very quickly in Politics?
The best chefs are male the worst politicians are men!

BFB said...

Trolls' characteristicae

1) They have a lot of free time, they are mostly lonely people.
2) They often ingratiate themselves to a person or two on the group and use them to stay in the group. They may protest with these "friends" that their right to free speech is being curtailed.
3) They sometimes use "socketpuppets", i.e. fake identities that may be used to sustain, or to inflame the troll's position or theory or attack. At times the socket puppets' names are anagrams or similar to the troll name. Thus a troll may engage in artificial conversations with himself. However impersonating multiple people is frowned upon by the more able trolls and is considered the lowest of the possible troll tactics.

Hi Trollouise.

Nice weekend?

Anonymous said...

The "ugly face of the UAF", whatdya mean, do they have an attractive one?, not in any pics I've seen lol

najistani said...

As well as supporting thugs like the UAF, the Muzzies will try everything to intimidate and stifle criticism of their death-cult.

The latest tactic (from Canada) is to complain that criticising Islam is a violation of Muslims' human rights. How long before they try the same trick here?

From http://fieryspiritedzionist.blogspot.com/2007/12/islamists-attempt-to-intimidate-critics.html

"Now the latest tactic is to launch human rights complaints. That is what the Canadian Islamic Congress is doing to Canada's Maclean's magazine for publishing an excerpt from Mark Steyn's book "America Alone:The End of the World as We Know It".

The Canadian Islamic Congress—Canada's largest non-profit Islamic body—has launched two human rights complaints against Maclean's and its editor-in-chief, Kenneth Whyte. The complaints' subject is "The Future Belongs to Islam," an excerpt from Mark Steyn's book "America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It," which appeared in the magazine's Oct. 23, 2006, issue.

Complaints were submitted to Human Rights Commissions in B.C. and Ontario on the grounds that "the article subjects Canadian Muslims to hatred and contempt," according to a CIC press release. In the release, the CIC labels Steyn's article as "flagrantly Islamophobic."

Faisal Joseph is the CIC's legal counsel on the matter. "In Canada, we have 750,000 law-abiding Muslims," he says. "When you read that article, it sounds to some people [like] there’s an attack from the 'Muslim' world against the 'non-Muslim' world. We take real issue with that type of characterization and the implications of it."

Anonymous said...

thing is, if a real war broke out with Russia or China you wouldnt see these cowards or their friends `the duel passport clowns` for dust!

yet they try and tell us how we should be living OUR lives in OUR country!

Anonymous said...

The Antifa lot are unlikely to come from the ranks of the working class so all this bluster and pumped up testosterone is just some spotty kid in a private school getting his rocks off on the internet.Dont forget they were among the protesters at Griffins trial....who exactly was intimidated by that lot?

watling said...

I'm baffled why the great unwashed and unemployable neanderthal hordes of United Against Freespeech keep going on about Nazis.

The Nazi party ceased to exist in the rubble of 1945 Berlin. Does United Against Freespeech have some warped kind of nostalgia? Of maybe they're so desperate to beat people up that they'll label a group as "Nazis" in order to justify the use of violence against that group?

"Fascist" is another favourite word of theirs. Indeed, they use "fascist" and "Nazi" interchangeably.

As Green Arrow has pointed out, the United Against Freespeech hordes have some things in common with Islam.

Both refuse to accept the possibility that people could dare to disagree with them.
Both use violence against those who do dare to disagree with them.
Both use derogatory terms to refer to their alleged opponents - i.e. "infidel" and "Nazi" - as if the mere use of those terms were sufficient to justify intolerance, persecution and violence.
Both have the destruction of Western democracy as a core objective.

johnoddybnp said...

UAF what’s all the fuss about, we all know them to be lying, lazy cowards, dressed-up as second rate football hooligans with one brain cell shared between them. I have met some of their “heavies” and too be honest they are more scared of you than you are of them. It doesn’t take rocket science to bully and threaten, which in their case is just as well, it does, however, take some skill and judgement to formulate a successful action which is why they continually fail!. Treat them for what they are insignificant specimens of pond life.
I don’t count Louise in the above, say “scrotum” Louise, and I think you should all stop picking on her, she’s not a “Troll” are you? (say “scrotum!”) Louise is just misunderstood, her use of the word “scrotum” I find to be quite soothing, almost erotic, and from a leftie that’s not bad. For all we know Louise may have a “thing” about scrotums for, after all, is the UAF not full of them??????????.

devils advocate said...

Watling, the Antifash certainly have a fascination for living in the past, perhaps its because they dont understand the present?..or of course, all their talk of black shirts and Nazism could point to a closet appreciation of the more sinister portrayals of Fascism - after all they do seen intent on stopping freedom of speech, and werent they all dressed in black combat gear at the Oxford debate?. or of course it could just be good old fashioned penis envy!

Anonymous said...

Oh come on it's all bravado,they were probably bullied at school .Have some sympathy..

BFB said...

they were probably bullied at school

Nail on the head!

Anonymous said...

There will always be an element on the 'left' who favour violence against the BNP. It is important, therefore, to plan activities with that in mind. Some steps are quite simple.

If you have a meeting arrange tables round the entrance so that it is difficult for a group to rush in. Put good people by the tables. Consider using spotters outside the meeting to warn you of any group approaching so you can give them a warm welcome! Use mobiles and walkie talkies.

If you organise a street sale, don't have everyone selling. Have some people who are not obviously with you close by. They can call for assistance if needed and follow attackers, get numberplates etc. This is more important than assisting in the long-term.

Look after your own security. Carry an alarm. Don't carry address books or credit/debit cards you don't need to activities. Consider martial arts training. Brazilian JuJitsu is particularly effective.

Remember safety in numbers. The more of you there are the less likely it is you will be attacked.

If you are attacked pick just one of the attackers and make sure that they don't want to do it again.