Thursday, 13 December 2007

There is a storm coming

Well we have really gone and done it now. We did not have to walk into a trap, we went looking for one and jumped into it head first.

The foolish re-actions of just a few patriotic individuals, polished to perfection by those who would seek to destroy our party and our country might end hope for all of us and Our Country.

The whole sorry mess was handled badly on both sides, no-one is innocent or free of guilt. It does not matter now who was right or who was wrong. It could have been sorted out internally. But no we had to start shooting from the start and all we have shot is ourself. Not in the foot but our stupid head.

The setting up of blogs to highlight the problems within the party we love, might bring about the destruction it. The only political party capable of saving our country and the only man with enough charisma in it to lead it and us to Victory.

Perhaps talks are now taking place to sort out the differences. I pray they are. If they are not then none of the players will be forgiven by nationalists of the future. Talk could have averted the coming storm. Because we ain't seen nothing yet.

John Crudass, one of the most truly corrupt individuals of all time and a spokesman of the UAF as now entered the fray and will be using every single word we have published and commented to attack us. Their scissors have been cutting n pasting since the start and we certainly provided them with enough work to last a lifetime. A lifetime in which every hasty statement and allegation will be thrown back in our face at every by-election or election we take part in.

I have only recently joined the Party but have supported it as an individual for years prior to joining. I joined in the end because I wanted to take part in the BNP forum and to be able to answer those who would say "Shut the f@@@ up. Your not even in the Party".

But when I joined the Party, I did not lose my independence. Because at the end of the day I am still a free man. What I did do though was impose a form of self-censorship on what I wrote. A mistake. I should not have joined the Party and I should have wrote what I thought in words of my choice and not couched in diplomacy. Like the man said. "We dont need no steenking badges" and I certainly do not need a membership card to support the BNP and Nationalism.

Those who know my identity. I did not always live in reduced circumstance's. I was an high flyer and have managed large departments and helped run companies. And I gained those postilions through hard work and regrettably losing my family because of my ambition.

And all this time I supported Nationalism in the background of my life. Then several years ago I decided to stop help prop the the establishment up with my taxes and work full time for our cause. All this can be verified by those who know me.

But during my time in managing departments, I could see trouble coming if a persons name kept coming up at meetings and not in a good way. And excuses for that individual might be made by some managers but sure enough that name would crop up again and again and again. In the end it would be the bullet for that name, no matter that I liked the guy and drank with him and had him as a guest at my home.

And that name now is Collett. I do not know him and I suspect some are just using him as a stalking horse. But he in my opinion could have helped nip this business in the bud by standing down and returning to the ranks until he had shown by hard work that he had reinvented himself has an asset to the Party.

We can not let our Candidates go into elections with questions being asked of them about his previous on camera statements and the allegations made about him. It is not fair on the candidates and it is not fair on our country.

You and I who profess to be honourable men and women would have either resigned the party or asked to be suspended pending a full enquiry.

He has chose to do NOTHING - to my knowledge, except remain silent. Thinks perhaps that this storm will blow over. Well it will not. It is going to become an hurricane unless we sort it now. And by now I mean NOW.

Many years ago I was told a story by a former para who had served with Colonel "H" Jones in the Falklands. My brother, also a para said he had no reason to doubt the story.

By all accounts when "H" asked his unit to follow him as volunteers in that attack, some considered it unnecessary as they could await for a mortar unit to arrive and take out the enemy that way. "H" would not wait and went over the top into history. But with him he took (I think it was his Radio Operator) who followed his Leader out of Loyalty, despite his own doubts. He died also. Now I am not sure about the precise details and have no time to check. But that sometimes is the price of Loyalty.

Our Chairman is renowned for his Loyalty. And that is a quality that we should all admire. But blind Loyalty must not let him or our party bring about his and our destruction.

He is not a Leader now of a small party. He is now a Politician in the big game. He must be prepared to sacrifice his closest confidants if they are holding our advance back.

Now it is all probably academic now. But unity must be restored. We must shake hands. Close down those blogs and use every means at our disposal, make every sacrifice and bite our tongues of in the cause of unity. Because we are now under serious attack by those who seek our destruction.

Please show us your true Leadership qualities Chairman. You may feel that your position would be weakened but I believe that were you to do the right think now it could only strenghten it and I for one will follow you to hell if necessary to win back our country.

Mark Collett. I do not know you. But if you read this and if you are truly loyal to the Party and the Chairman then give him a way out and resign your positions and take your place in the ranks again. You are still young.

UPDATE

Well it seems that the olive branch has been firmly rejected by Matt Single and by extrapolation the others. The recent posting on eie, timed at 1726, instead of calling for calm and reconciliation calls for more people to resign. Yes I know they were upset, insulted and offended but to put personal feelings before their country, Our Country to me seems a great shame. I suspect they have been given very bad advice. Sound familiar.


War is sweet to those who haven't tasted it.


83 comments:

Anonymous said...

A good post GA, a split needs to be avoided at all costs but be careful the comments you have made could cause some to say you are helping the reds, are a traitor and using Collett as a scapegoat when your target is NG.

If action had been taken sooner against Collett this situation is unlikely to have arisenm action still can be taken he got a final warning after all so that would the correct way to deal with the problem and it owuld be a political response. Or to give him a way out he could resign saying he has ket the side down.

Either way he should go and quicjly and then the rest of us can sort the sorry mess out. If nothing else we will then see if there is any truth in the allegations that those shockedf and appalled by his behaviour really were gunning for Nick all this time. And if they were in time MC could return. If they werent then MC, in the owrds thrown at some us, has made his bed and must lie in it. His antic are more akin to the fringe parties anyway and that is where he belongs - on the fringe until he changes not just his views but his attitude.

The BNP reformed, although you wouldnt know it from his outbursts, so Im sure he can.

The Green Arrow said...

Anon: 1108

Thankyou for your comment. If anyone does think I am siding with the reds they are mistaken.

If peace is an impossibility I will stand by the Party and Nick Griffin and I will do my utmost to defend it and I will be relentless in my attacks on any alternative party that is formed.

Nick Griffin is the British National Party.

Dave said...

Collett was the red rag but the bull is Nick Griffin, and the bull is down, so cut the bull green arrow.
anon's been dropping poison all over the blogosphere , and I mean them all.
His mantra remains his distaste of Collett and his loyalty to the Party, his staunch admiration of Griffin, but just in case you miss the point the ultimatum is there to Griffin. Give way or else.
You surely realise Griffin cannot back down and reinstate these people even if he felt safe to do so.
The real agenda has been revealed by their actions.
If thats too simple for some people like anon and his busy fingers to grasp, tough.
Whats done is done, get over it. Just stiop flogging a dead bull.
Its been blogged right through to the heart.
They are running the party now, Griffin has a very old website

Dave said...

If action had been taken sooner against Collett this situation is unlikely to have arisenm action still can be taken he got a final warning after all so that would the correct way to deal with the problem and it owuld be a political response. Or to give him a way out he could resign saying he has ket the side down.


Thats it anon, keep plugging the final warning none of us ordinary punters knew about till you leaked it.
You all colluded for years to cover this up till you felt your numbers were strong enough to hijack the party.
Dont get coy and offended now.

Anonymous said...

Mark Collett. I do not know you. But if you read this and if you are truly loyal to the Party and the Chairman then give him a way out and resign your positions and take your place in the ranks again. You are still young.

How is that giving Griffin a way out?

annonimo said...

When the tories labour and lib Dems out a leader they always praise them for their sterling work.
This lot have been taking notes on the back of fag packets.

Anonymous said...

Will we be putting ALL of Britain first?
Europe is our biggest threat yet the Old Guard keeps telling us its our fellow citizens.
We could swell our numbers by thousands overnight.
A new BNP to save Britain.
Collett out Griffin out.


Thats a matter for the members to vote on. Will YOU be proposing it?

Jamie said...

I will when this is all over. I want Kenny and Sadie immediately reinstated (like every other decent member) and a clean up from the top down. I sense a real keenness for change in the rank and file.
Our nazi past and the constant sniping at minorities have embarressed many hard working activists on the doorsteps of Britain.
Times change so should the BNP to include ALL Brits.
When Griffin and Collett are gone we can get back to businesss of protecting Britain and erasing the nasty things about the party.

Dave said...

Who's going to lead this brave new party Jamie?
Anjem Chowdray? Obviously Griffinites will have no welcome anymore?

Jamie said...

Griffinites as you say will just have to go along with the majority, so will I.
But if this case highlights anything its that the majority are not happy with Griffins leadership or his policies.
He has no choice but to sack Collett and reinstate our fellow patriots.

The Green Arrow said...

Yeah well we can see the ones who want the best for the party and the country.

Those calling for The Chairman to be removed are plain and simply the agents of destruction.

Griffin is the Party. By MC standing down the door is open for reconciliation. Those opposed have had their way and will see it as a victory.

The Chairman will not have been disloyal to MC and MC is still in the party with the chance to mature.

And lessons learned all round. Hopefully. But time is running out.

Collett you are betraying Nicks honour said...

Collett give way you are about to destroy the party and Griffins reputation for good, thanks to Griffins blind loyalty to you. Where is your loyalty to this party, Nationalism and this country.

you have seen the initial polls that show the party members want you gone.
do you want to drag Griffin down with you after all the chances he gave you to get it right, yet you still screw it up! for EVERYONE.

sure you may ride it out - to what more sleeze thrown over all party members because you remain.
more pressure on Nick because you remain.

where is your honour?
to be blunt, give way you selfish bastard. you are Dragging Nick down, he has done he best to save you and your thanks is to sit it out until you destroy him and his party.

with friends like you who needs enemys?

Semi-Anonymous. said...

WTF - Out Griffin and Collett?
WTF - Let in ALL British?

Who are you, David Cameron?

LOL.

Get a grip, we are the BNP, always will be the BNP and there is no man on the face of the planet better to lead it thn Nick Griffin.

If you cannot accept that, go away and form your own party and stop bitching like spoilt children that got caught being naughty.

Paul said...

None of this looks good does it?
On one hand we have the honest activists the saviours of Britain and her downtrodden people forced to resort to hatching a plot to bring down Collett the Nazi thug (and farter)inadvertently spilling a bag of shredded party docs on Gables doorstep on their way to church.
They suddenly remembered they knew he was a p****phile and were outraged he'd been flirting with "children".
They'd seen this months/years earlier but they just remembered how outraged they were a few days ago.
They'd been so involved looking for p****philes among Muslims they quite forgot they were on drinking terms with a few. This is understanable in politics, its a dirty business and finding time to get outraged requires planning and checking ones diary.
One can make such a monumental cock-up if the timing and support dont correlate just so.

On the other we have that old dinosaur Griffin puffed up arrogant and no stranger to a punch up with the antifash fascists.He calls a spade a shovel and admires boot boys. I have to tell you, I dont think Griffins in touch with his feminine side at all.
Its one of his failings I'm sure.

Jamie said...

Griffin reinstates Kenny and Sadie and sacks Collett then he can stay until we have an emergency leadership election.
He has no choice and he's not a stupid man.

Anonymous said...

I see no value in publishing personal attacks on Nick Griffin. I think that all genuine Nationalists should cease posting and remove threads. If you don't do this you are just making a bad situation worse. These matters are internal and should be resolved behind closed doors. Get on with putting a positive Nationalist message forward.

Paul said...

Jamie, dont take this the wrong way old son but how old are you?
Shouldn't you be at the old Alma Mater at this time of the day?
Are you YBNP who's backed the rebels and got all earnest about Nazi's in the cupboards?

Britain dies today said...

Britain dies today thanks to Labours surrender to the EU.

We have the BNP, Britains only chance to win our country back.
But have no fear Collett remains in the BNP destroying it from within.

that is what matters isnt it - COLLETT, fuck Britain eh!

to quote Collett

`Hitler will be remembered forever and maybe i will too`

say goodbye to the UK folks its over.

Paul said...

anon 12:58
where have you been the last few days?
Had the 'flu?
I agree with your sentiments but why should the Red blogs get all the groundbreaking news ?

The Green Arrow said...

anon:1258

I agree that posts should be removed and some blogs change direction but not posting will not make the problem go away.

I for one have no energy or will to for putting a positive message forward until it is resolved.

Talk of NG having to go is quite frankly nonsense and no real nationalist is asking for that. Only the destroyers who would turn the BNP into a new multicultural mess like the country. And that as they say would be over my dead body.

If Collett will not fall into his sword honourably then shove him on it and say he done the decent thing and was a true peacemaker.

Dave said...

Yeah thats all Colletts fault? Get a reality check leaker.
You stupid arse. Britains preoccupied with our partys betrayal from withingn to shut us up today and split the party and lose the london elections.
Coincidence with the timing?
Call me an old cynic..but?

GA we are with you said...

well said GA

Dave said...

That was for Britain Dies today Ga not you.

Dave

Jamie said...

Talk of NG having to go is quite frankly nonsense and no real nationalist is asking for that. Only the destroyers who would turn the BNP into a new multicultural mess like the country. And that as they say would be over my dead body.

Who are you calling real Nationalists? Griffin can stay as long as he recognises the demands of the membership.

Anonymous said...

leaving endless messages on blogs about the suituation doesn't seem to be acheiving anything so I think the time to stop is now.

Obviously reds (mention of Nazi's) are leaving messages and it's all become pointless.

hello selfish mark aka `dave` said...

Dave said...
Yeah thats all Colletts fault? Get a reality check leaker.
You stupid arse. Britains preoccupied with our partys betrayal from withingn to shut us up today and split the party and lose the london elections.
Coincidence with the timing?
Call me an old cynic..but?

thanks for your input Mark Collett aka `DAVE`

now do the decent thing, rather than put Nick through this mess.
why would you betray him like this by holding on for selfish greed?

can you not see the damage you have caused and continue to cause to Nick and the party as a whole?

still did ANYONE expect Mark Collett EVER to do the decent thing?

P.S. would you like to see the anti Collett poll again?

tbr said...

fall on your sword Collette,
people would respect you for it.

Jamie said...

Paul said;

Jamie, dont take this the wrong way old son but how old are you?
Shouldn't you be at the old Alma Mater at this time of the day?
Are you YBNP who's backed the rebels and got all earnest about Nazi's in the cupboards?

13 December 2007 13:

Whats it to you my role in the party. I'm a committed Nationalist who hates racists and Nazi's.I will not tolerate them.
Kenny and Sadie are right to out them and get rid, starting with Collett. I'm disappointed they didn't do this sooner if they had evidence as they say for a long time and I think they should have knuckles rapped for that, but immediately reinstated.
If Griffin dioesn't give in to demands then he will follow Collett.
The party needs fresh air and the so called rebels (patriots) recognise this.

Jamie said...

Anonymous said...
leaving endless messages on blogs about the suituation doesn't seem to be acheiving anything so I think the time to stop is now.

Obviously reds (mention of Nazi's) are leaving messages and it's all become pointless.

13 December 2007 13:13

How dare you call me a Red.I am well known to Nationalists.
The N word is out of the closet now thanks to the realbnp. We are openly discussing our secret shame now. Lancing the poison.

BFB said...

GA,

I know this subject is bringing you a lot of traffic but FFS move on!

Having watched the Russell Brand video's it's perfectly obvious who the ignorant bigot is. When Collett says he doesn't find black women attractive Brand responds: "They've got lovely arses."

Commenting on Dawn French he says: "She's got big tits."

But HIS career is not on the line...maybe because he isn't a BNP member!

Even the TROLL is bored with this topic. MOVE ON!

Dave to Red nark said...

The "anon" twat above calling me Collett;
Nah I'm not Collett, GA can check my location on his tracker.
But you've got realbnp dribbling all downb your big loose lips.
I know eff all abpout Collett except what YOU'VE leaked to force out Griffin You RED nark.

The Green Arrow said...

Bloody hell Battler. I honestly hope you do not really believe that this is about traffic.

I have not done any real work since this tragedy started. It must be resolved.

What about the auricle itself. What are you comments?

The Green Arrow said...

Just for info. Although it is possible for me to track I.P.'s I do not do this on a point of principle.

I might, very rarely just have a look to see where someone is coming in from but avoid that as a rule.

Nothing is ever recorded on this blog. That I guarantee.

Marianne said...

JSomeone slap that little prat Jamie. A good stinging slap across the ear.
Theres a very good case for keeping idealistic kids out of politics.
First visit Green Arrow, phew its hot in here!
I'm a BNP Scotland voter.

BFB said...

"auricle"....???????

reds love mark in the BNP said...

strange that Mark, eeer i mean `Dave` you calling me a red. because i can tell you now the one thing the reds want more than anything is for Collett to stay.

what kind of red would want to remove the most damaging part of the BNP?

as for removing Griffin, you are insane! i love Griffin which is why i want Collett to go to save him and the party anymore disasters and embarisment.

still nice try to discredit a TRUE nationalist - all for the sake of protecting the Collett - aka `fuck the BNP and its members im more important.`

like i said wanna see the poll again?

BFB said...

GA,

If this was a "tragedy" it would be plastered all over the front pages. Why isn't it?

easy now said...

bfb

calm down mate, run out of valium?

Dave to Red Nark from realbnp said...

To Red Nark from realbnp. I couldn't give a flying one if Collett stays or not. I couldn't pick him out in a line up. If he'd pissed me off he wouldn't be in Britain let alone the party but you lot say you knew about him sat on it, took the glory of being patriots then staged a leadership coup to oust Griffin and take over the party.
Collett wouldn't have done the fannyman on me but you let him do you regular for months or to quote Hill 6yrs.

Anonymous said...

strange that Mark, eeer i mean `Dave` you calling me a red. because i can tell you now the one thing the reds want more than anything is for Collett to stay.

you should know, did you get paid for the interviews on UAF?

straw men is that the best youve got? said...

you lot? real BNP? nark?

pathetic -

straw men FFS

what the hell are you on about Mark, im not anyones lot, i want the best for the party.

the best for the party is to remove Collett.

as everyone agrees - wanna see the poll?

marianne said...

I think its the timing that worries me too. If they all knew about all the terrible things they have divulged why did they not act swiftly and with honour.
I'm worried about personal details the Scottish bnp had on me and my husband.
If there is a split who will have members contact numbers.
There are no Scottish "old" BNP left.

Anonymous said...

as everyone agrees - wanna see the poll?

13 December 2007 13:47

Aye, play with your pole nark

Anonymous said...

To Marianne;

I honestly dont know who has the details of members now and who can be trusted.

Realbnp nark, who's got members details now?

democracy in action - the vote says remove mark said...

go on Mark get it out of your system, narks, uaf, realbnp blah blah blah.

keep going and you may actually find - a true patriot that wants the best for the party.

unlike Mark Collett.

Dave said...

Anonymous said...
as everyone agrees - wanna see the poll?

13 December 2007 13:47

Aye, play with your pole nark

13 December 2007 13:49

Good one anon. LOL!

Dave said...

democracy in action - the vote says remove mark said...
go on Mark get it out of your system, narks, uaf, realbnp blah blah blah.

keep going and you may actually find - a true patriot that wants the best for the party.

unlike Mark Collett.

13 December 2007 13:51

And if I dont gt it I'll scweam and scweam and scweam to Antifa and Searchlight and UAF .

get it up you nark, this mess we're in is down to fucking you!

joe said...

I am in total agreement with you GA.

If I were MC I'd stand down as the party must come first.

vote Mark Collett said...

It's election time and I'm on someone's doorstep.

"Hello Sir, I represent the British National Party. Can I ask if you are likely to vote for us in the coming election?"

"Well, I agree with most of your policies."

"That's good. I'll put you down as a Yes. Ok?"

"Hang about. Didn't your leader deny the Holocaust?"

"Well, not exactly ..."

"Ok then. But didn't he order some guys to break into a party official's house and steal her belongings?"

"Well, in a sense, but ..."

"Isn't one of his henchmen a jumped up little Nazi? I saw a documentary about him where he said some very odd things - the sort of things which no politician could ever say and expect to continue their career in politics? Indeed, the sort of things that would make any sane person question the nature of the party he represents?"

"Ah, well, that was a while ago ... and maybe some of it was out of context ... errr ..."

"How many people would vote for a politician who said: 'Hitler will live on forever and maybe I will too'?"

"Well ... perhaps ... errr ... one or two ... errr ..."

"Didn't your leader decide to retain this little prat and those other two goons instead of reinstating the reliable, respected, hard-working ones whom he'd forced out when they'd complained about said prat?"

"Errr ... perhaps ... in a sense ... but ..."

"Doesn't your leader in fact see himself as a career right-wing politician who is doing very nicely thank-you living off members' subscriptions, and not actually as someone who can save this country from both cultural suicide and being a puppet state in a federal Europe?"

"Well ... I wouldn't put it quite like that ... errr ..."

"Did you think I wouldn't know all this stuff?"

"I was sort of hoping you wouldn't."

"And you want me to vote for you?"

"Errr ... shall I put you down as a Possible, then?"

Ed said...

I think we can safely assume these two factions would have difficulty presenting a united front.
Too much damage done by individuals who were either extremely stupid or extremely uncaring of the fall out they would create.

everyones a red! said...

hey Mark,

if it makes you feel better you can call me what you like. quite funny really seeing you self combust in this manner with a total over reaction! mmmmm

heres a little bit of democracy for you Mark - the poll

leave on his own accord 22.64%
be kicked out 62.26%
stay in party 15.09%

The Green Arrow said...

Where is this poll please?

Paul said...

It's you that sounds desperate realbnp. Your posts have been seen as "anons" or these silly headings you use.You're the one I'd like to track.
I dont blame you for remaining anonymous but know you are a traitor. Not to Griffin or Collett. The party should have been bigger than either of them or all of you at "realbnp" plotting name changes and new roles.
You've betrayed the British people who voted for us. You've caused a split.
Are you surprised some people clearly hate you?`

Jamie said...

Mr Griffin,

The people have spoken. Reinstate Sadie and Kenny sack Collett. Its all over unless you do.
You will be allowed to remain until after the mayoral elections then our democratic party will decide on a leadrership contest.
You have but one choice for the good of the Party we hold so dear

Jamie and supporters

The Green Arrow said...

I have been requested by several people now to either disable or enable comment moderation.

In the interests of peace I am going to moderate comments. I am here all day and comments made will be up within minutes.

However I regret to say I will not be showing posts that I consider not relevant to the debate.

Mr T said...

Ho hum. The curse of Nationalism. Small people big ideas, huge cause worth fighting for.
Have we made MPACUK yet?
UAF and the link to the rebel blog usually link there too

Anonymous said...

When KS and SG sat down to scheme their scheme did they envisage this?
What a difference a week makes.
Perhaps Nationalism is too precious a thing to be trusted to the emotionally immature.(No slur on young Jamie older men than him have said daft and damaging things)
Perhaps its too precious to be trusted to forums and inexperienced activists with poor language skills.
Cameron and Co rarely make a mistake. Bastards all but born leaders.
Nationalists see a charismatic leader and cant wait to pull him down.

Paul said...

Well said GA I too have pondered for many years on joining the BNP and what effect it may have on my life and that of my family. I too was quite a flyer in my time but sadly due to labour I have lost that ability.

The BNP was and still could be great if and only if it removes the likes of Collett. Hi is a cockroach as per my blog.

For people to resign in support of Kenny etc then the problems they have tried to highlight over the years must be true.

As for me I have nothing much to offer in the way of support as I am only a normal member. But my heart goes out to them. if I can help I will be their for them.

Anonymous said...

Careful GA,

Now you have censorship you could be seen as corrupt.

The Green Arrow said...

Anon:15:10

I am sure those who wish to see peace will understand.

I consider it more of a time delay then censorship. All reasonable comments will be posted but ones containing insults for the sake of insults.

By there way I wonder how that poor BNP candidate in Harrow is feeling today with this lot going on?

While we bicker him and team are out there fighting.

Joe Public said...

Why are you wasting your time arguing who is right & who is wrong.

I am just Joe public who comes here to hear what is going wrong in my country, & all you can do is argue who is right & who is wrong in your little party.

I can tell you this, get rid of Nick & you shut down any chance you might have had.

I was convinced you were all a bunch of skin head racists until Nick got going.

When I receved this reply the other day

"all the bloody members thats who! said...
how many is that you ask,

LISTEN YOU ARROGANT LITTLE TWAT"

I thought with emotional answers like that, they are going to destroy what they have built up, MC & your opinion of him does not matter in the bigger picture of things.

Now kiss & make up you bunch of emotional big girls blouses!

The country is being sold down the river, & all you can do is argue amongst yourselves!

johnoddybnp said...

There are so many UAF postings on here I had to check I wasn’t on one of their sites!.
The “Great Unwashed” can say what they want, they are not restricted by the confines of adulthood, but the rest of us should know better. To all members and supporters of the BNP this is not a time to be sniping at each other or for speculating about what will or wont happen. When this is all over we all have to work together again so we do not need personal insults floating around. We need to be strong and silent but, at the moment, we are noisy and weak. Our strength as always come from our solidarity and love of our Country, do not lose sight of that, not now and not in the months to come.
We, as a party, are only good enough to lead this Country out of some of it’s darkest days if we unite together once more and fight the real enemies and not each other.

The Green Arrow said...

Anon 14:36

I found your comment about the difference a week makes and it certainly does. It was Wilson who made the original quote "A week is a long time in politics" and this is certainly proving to be the case now.

I think one of the problems we are having as a Party is its success. We are getting young idealists who are not fully aware of our history or core believes and because of the way the world is today, they think they, the young are the ones best suited to change it.

Another interesting line in your comment about dragging down a Charismatic Leader and that again is something the young tend to do. They follow something with something akin to fanaticism and then want to move on to something else.

Then their are those who have strong feelings but are unable to articulate themselves and instead of being glad we have a chairman who can, they attempt to drag him down.

Gordon Brown as no charisma and no one would follow him into combat. Nick Griffin on the other hand can inspire and motivate people and that is why the party is such a success.

One of the things the party must be careful of is not to allow itself to be swamped by modernisers who would gradually dilute it into just an old style conservative party.

Loyal BNP said...

1. There was an AGM 3 weeks ago where the issues could have been aired, and resolved. Why did KS and SG not abide by party democracy- and instead set up their blog. What is wrong with

2. At the AGM , Griffin proposed that there shoudl be an oversight commitee to look over the treasury Dept. The membership disagreed with him and decided this was not neccesary. Who do KS and SG think they are to overturn the decision of the membership- if there was a great concern about finances this proposal would have been accepted without question.

3. Both SB and Scott McLean seem to have been on Hannam and Collets orginal tribunal a year ago, where the historical allegations were dealt with. Why are they, a year later, proposing to sack them for things already dealt with by a far-from-loaded tribunal

4. Why is everyone ignoring a 91% vote in favour of Griffins leadership earlier this year.

5. Why has Griffins olive branch been rejected?

None of the EIEN people are reds- one or two i have fought with side by side against reds. But what they are doing is folowing Leninist tactics- they feel they know better than ordinary members. They feel that internal party democracy shoudl not get in the way of petty personality disputes

ConcernedBrit. said...

British Government laughs as it destroys its own country
by IanPP on Fri 30 Nov 2007 21:55 GMT | Permanent Link | Cosmos
This Government is destroying its own country. This Government is destroying its own people.

What was it Jack Straw said, Oh Yes.................'the British are not worth saving as a race'.

They are keeping more and more of the indigenous people out of work, those that are working are subjected to mind bending 'diversity training', and the government ships in millions of immigrants to push up the tax take and to erode and wear down the number of 'British' citizens. And your government laughs at you.

Rather than new immigrants having to assimilate to the British way of life, we must assimilate to the hotch potch of incoming cultures, religions and customs. And your government laughs at you.

5000 illegal immigrants, not even legal ones, but illegals are working in some of the most sensitive security positions for the Home Office, Police, Ministry of Justice and Airports to help them push through plans for more taxes and fines for virtually anything. And your government laughs at you.

The Nation's institutions are being ripped apart, destroyed and replaced by quango's, NGO's and Charities. And your government laughs at you.

Your free born rights, guaranteed by the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights are being undermined, taken away and replaced with government issued 'entitlements'. To work, to travel, to freely associate and go about your lawful business. And your government laughs at you.

Your government wants to track your every move with ID cards, read your email, listen to your phone calls, track what you earn, what you spend, who you mix with. And your government laughs at you.

Our Capital's police gun down innocent victims, yet nothing is done. And your government laughs at you.

Ministers consistently lie before parliament and to the public, yet nothing is done. And your government laughs at you.

But the Big Lie designed to keep everyone awake at night, the terror threat, your security, is still being used as the reason for all this.


"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."


Lord West, the former First Sea Lord, was due to announce the results of his review of the terrorist threat in 'enclosed places' such as the London underground, railway stations and airports. But Brown told the Cabinet this morning that he will take it over. Keeping up the lie.

The political consequences are clear to see, unfettered immigration, failing education, failing health services, failing police forces, failing support services, failing farm policy, failing energy policies, failing defence policies, failing on crime, failing on honest justice. Government corruption and government funded corruption is rife, paid for with more and more of your taxes. And your government laughs at you.

The economy is failing, Britain having fallen from 3rd to 14th in the world economies, we are now £1.5 trillion in the red, we have had the first real run on a western bank in a century, Northern Rock is now costing the taxpayer £30 billion and the housing market is ready to collapse along with the rest of the economy. Money is being wasted at an almost indescribable rate And your government laughs at you.

Our Military is getting close to the point of collapse, with the CGS today admitting that our forces are now 'overstretched' and underfunded. Funding is now lower whilst fighting 2 wars than it was during peacetime 10 years ago. And your government laughs at you.

Thank to DK, you can read this excellent deconstruction so that you too will be prepared to labour under the yoke of the one-eyed Dictator's "new-liberty".
Symptoms of this Government include: dumbing, jargonism, infantilisation, vacuity, phoney democratisation and authoritarianism. A key weapon of the mediocratic agenda is the Orwellian redefinition of words and ideas.

No-one takes responsibility while they laugh at you.

Brown acts like a dictator, and the Stalinist Brown is laughing at you.
Jack Straw is laughing at you.
The whole British Government is laughing at you.

And they laugh at you because you are doing nothing to stop them.

Anonymous said...

Dave...

Griffin backed down over the Edwards during a similar situation not long after he became chairman at a meeting organised by Bruce Cowd so why can he not "back down" now? If the two sides are to be reconciled someone needs to show willing.

Talking of mantras yours is always the same too, you are using, or appear to be, "the real target is Griffin" line to deflect any criticism from Collett. Do you not find the things Collett has done "distasteful"? Do you think they have helped the party particularly image wise?

If Collett steps down it will show whether or not the real agenda was NG or not and if it was Im sure most of those signed up on the EIE blog will soon disassocisate themselves from it. And the realbnp will fizzle out. If it wasnt we could have a reunited party. Thats got to be better than what we have now, has it not?

And when you say what is done is done are you ruling out any chance of reconciliation? Do you want the party to split?

Anonymous said...

Dave said. "Keep pluggin the final warning none of us ordinary members knew about till you leaked it. You all colluded for years to cover this up".

Im an ordinary member too so I couldnt have leaked it nor colluded to ocver up something I dont or didnt know about. However if the disciplinary action taken against Collett had been made known sooner to the wider ordinary membership it could well have averted the growing unease felt by many that Collett was getting away scot free and could have averted what has happened now or do you feel it was better covered up and should have stayed that way? The ordinary membership, and the general public come to that, were after all told why Collet was NOT disciplined after the conference escapade if they can be told that why cant they be told when he IS disciplined?

Helena said...

The wonderful Tapman has articulated what many Scots feel. We were ashamed that the debacle involved so many of our owntapman said...
You will probably remove my comments as you did last night aberdeen but i think it is now time to realise that your support has gone out the window. You keep saying that the whole of scotland bnp is on your side and as you know from conversations with myself and other group organisers and fundholders that it is not true and we stand by the party. In response to Nicholla, in no way have i condoned any actions that mc may have done but i believe in the proper course of action (report to police etc) internal enquiry should have been taken and not sit on this information for over a year. Anything else that has happened, computers removed, people arriving at your door etc, I cannot comment on as you quite clearly stated i was not there so i cannot pass judgement. I now find it hard to believe as i understand the press are also involved although i have not read the paper, until i do so i will not comment on that either, because we have stood by the party does not make us bad people it just shows that we saw the bigger picture, the party and our struggle is more important than a veiled leadership challenge. I know you will never agree with me on our stand but we will continue our struggle and our support for scotland bnp. I also wish it to be known to the people reading this blog that the whole of scotland bnp were not involved in these actions. I also asked you respectfully to remove this rubbish now from your blog as lancaster bnp has done and get back to your normal reporting
Regards
Tapman

13 December 2007 17:10


Helena said...
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Anonymous said...

this is a long list of respected people supporting Sadie calling on collett to quit - are they all reds and Nutzis?

is it not time to listen to these people who put the slog in only to be undermined but the few.

Andrew Gatward (West Lindsey Organiser)
Bev Jones (North West Regional Fund-Raiser, Tameside Secretary, Manchester North Fundraiser and Ex-North West Regional Organiser)
Brian Riley (Glasgow Organiser)
Charlie Baillie (Glasgow Fundholder)
Cllr Chris Beverley (Yorkshire Elections Officer, Leeds Organiser - Mark Collett's local Branch - and Advisory Council Member)
Cllr Dave Brown (Broxtowe)
Cllr Graham Partner (North West Leicestershire Fundholder)
Cllr John Ryde (East Midlands Press Officer and Education & Training Officer)
Cllr Lewis Allsebrook (Amber Valley Organiser)
Cllr Nina Brown (East Mids Regional Secretary and Broxtowe Organiser)
Cllr Roger Robertson (South East Regional Organiser and Advisory Council Member)
Cllr Sadie Graham (Head of Group Development, East Mids Regional Organiser and Advisory Council Member)
Danny Lake (YBNP Leader)
Dave Jones (National Data Protection Officer, North West Regional Secretary, Regional Press Officer and Tameside Fundholder)
Dave Taylor (Bradford Contact)
Gary Pudsey (Bridlington Organiser)
Ian Dawson (Yorkshire Regional Secretary, Former Head of Group Support and Advisory Council Member)
Ivan Winters (Bradford Fundholder)
Kenny Smith (Head of Administration, Scottish Regional Organiser, Scottish Elections Officer and Advisory Council Member)
Kieran Dinsmore (Ulster Regional Organiser)
Lee Haggan (Doncaster Organiser and Great White Records Recording Artist)
Lesley Dathan (Sunderland Fundholder)
Louise Scott (Scarborough Secretary and Northern Regional Voices Correspondent)
Malcolm Porter (West Lindsay Fundholder)
Mark Payne (Former Assistant National Treasurer)
Mark Wain (Melton & Rutland Press Officer)
Mark Westbury (Nottingham Secretary)
Matt Single (Department of Security Secretary and Training Officer)
Michael Clarke (Ashfield Organiser)
Mike Cooper (Hull Fund-Holder - Dave Hannam's local Group)
Neil Craig (Bradford Organiser)
Nicholla Smith (Managing Director of Excalibur, Falkirk Organiser and Advisory Council Member)
Nick Walsh (Hull BNP Organiser - Dave Hannam's local Group)
Paul Harris (Barnsley Organiser)
Peter (Boston, Holbeach & Spalding Fundholder)
Peter Hollings (Yorkshire Regional Fund-Raiser and Leeds Secretary - Mark Collett's local Branch)
Richard Chadfield (North West Regional Fundholder and Former Stockport Organiser)
Rob Walker (Wellingborough Contact)
Robert Walker (Huddersfield Organiser)
Sammy Shaw (Falkirk Fundholder and Forum Moderator)
Scott McLean (Former Deputy Chairman, Scottish Regional Organiser and Advisory Council Member)
Steve Blake (Web Editor, Head of Education & Training and Advisory Council Member)
Steve Thomson (Aberdeen Organiser)
Stuart Russell (Former National Press Officer and Advisory Council Member))
Tom Linden (Harrogate & District Organiser)
Trisha Scott (Scarborough Organiser)
Wendy Russell (East Midlands Regional Fundraiser, Regional Information Officer and Peacock Club Chairman)

Joe Public said...

Gordon Brown as no charisma and no one would follow him into combat. Nick Griffin on the other hand can inspire and motivate people and that is why the party is such a success.

Well said GA.

Anonymous said...

Milliband sells us to Europe today and we have the stupid Nazi boy collett destroying the BNPs chances of power. holding us back and costing us votes.

the Nazi image is the most destructive image of the BNP and yet Griffin fosters it through Collett.

we are clinging to the sodding NAZI boy! what the hell is Grifin thinking off? has he gone mad?

The Lincolnshire Patriot said...

Collet and Hannam should be expelled forthwith - they are not "fit for purpose" and are an embarrassment to the nationalist cause. All sacked personnel should be immediately reinstated. This will give us a point to move on from. This has been coming for a long time. Clear out the deadwood and let us get back to the business of saving our country.

Anonymous said...

No free speech for anti-Griffinites! Mod check on! Trolls win. Shame on GA!

Forseti said...

Your analysis is spot on, GA. But the chairman is no fool, or he wouldn't be where he is today. He must understand what a liability Collett is.

Has everyone forgotten that immediately after "Young Nazi and Proud" was broadcast back in 2002, Collett was sacked as leader of the Young BNP. At that time there were calls for him to be kicked out of the party and some good activists left in disgust. Yet a week after the programme, Collett spoke at a party meeting, in Bradford I think, alongside Nick.

So why does Nick refuse to act? We don't have so many good activists and party officers to spare that we can afford to lose so many good ones. Various people have speculated about what hold Collett has on Nick. Many of the wilder accusations obviously come from reds, but that still leaves the problem of why. There must be something and the members have a right to know. We give our time freely for the Cause and this is all the thanks we get for it.

Please Nick, open your eyes and ears and do something before it is too late.

AgainsTTheWall said...

Matt Single's article is a nauseous combination of a personal self-pitying whine on the one hand and a call to arms on the other. Clearly the Rebs are winding this up and will not compromise. Shame cos they cant win but they can destroy British nationalism.

Even if MC and DH resigned now I doubt whether Humpty could be put back together again. Wherever the fault lies this is sad and unnecessary.

Louise said...

GA: Its clear that this problem isnt going to be sorted out quickly. I am hoping that Collett and co and Griffin and that dreadful arse Darby resign their posts (which they should have done already) and that an apology is presented to Graham and co (alongside a warning for bad behaviour with immediate reinstatement). HOwever, its clear that there are issues which are taking over the usual discussions here (eg those disgusting policies and racism). Whilst all the internal party talk is going on, I have little place. When you re-mobilise, I shall be back with vigour to carry on challenging you all! But right now, this is stuff that you can well do without me as an outsider poking in! See you soon I hope. Until then, best wishes to you, natural leader in denial SirHm, Gentle Paul and my less fond nemeses the horrid BFB, sniveeling johnoddbnp, the remarkably emotional Reconquistra and the self-confessed inarticulate 15 minute wonder najistani. Farewell and I bid thee well!

The Green Arrow said...

Take care louise and have a traditional Merry Christmas and think about the true meaning of it.

I am sorry that our little family feud has interrupted your assault on the truth but is decent of you to stand aside until it over.

Have no fear though we will prevail and under a British National Party government you will be free to attack us as usual.

Good Luck

I am sure Paul will miss you. I expect I will not see him now you have gone.

Frederick, said...

Forseti said;

Many of the wilder accusations obviously come from reds,

Shamefully Forseti they dont, they come from deep within our ranks.
The Reds are of course repeating them and loving it, but they were fed by our own.
We're not a social club as some ex members seem to think.We are a mature political party (or aspire to be)
We hold the trust and hopes of thousands of our fellow citizens.Those people we are honoured to represent who must be in limbo now and feeling let down again.
We can't afford to let chumminess and dominant personalities hijack the cause.
Its great to be among our own. I too have made firm friends that I respect and admire. They would never dream of dragging me into a plot to bring down the party. Nor would I to them, our friendship would end put under such pressure.

To the anonymous..(arent they all,?) "anti Griffinite"complaining of censorship.
This is a loyal blog in case you hadn't noticed.
No chance of hijacking it against our party.
Thank you Green Arrow for giving me the chance to speak I hope I have not crossed the line.

Anonymous said...

"strange that Mark, eeer i mean `Dave` you calling me a red. because i can tell you now the one thing the reds want more than anything is for Collett to stay."

It's certainly true reading the opposition sites that they are loving every single resignation, and screaming out for more, but not one call has gone out from the reds for MC to go, I agree that speaks volumes.

Anonymous said...

Well I'll give you credit GA, I might disagree with you on a lot of things, but you certainly tried in this last post to put a more sensible level of mediation in place, however it does appear to have come to nought, and next years elections are looking as though they may now be a dark day.

With the amount of information now circulating, about DH in particular, we have a nightmare to face next year, because whilst this might all blow over those stories of perversion are bound to come back to haunt the party next year, you can bet your bottom dollar that the media, and the UAF will see to that.

I have to say I am severely disappointed, I can understand that the rebels over stepped a mark, I can understand that NG didn't want to appear to give in to "blackmail", but the new allegations that have come to light, and rather unfortunately in public, left no option, heads had to roll, and I can't understand why they haven't.

How can anyone justify protecting a known pervert?

It's perhaps best if you don't publish this comment, although just one more comment stating the obvious probably won't make any difference, but this is surely the worst mistake Griffin has ever made.

This has been inexcusable, and he NEEDED to find a way to get rid of the problem.

I have to say I can understand why so many are considering their positions, how can any of us justify allowing a pervert to remain in the party?

It makes a mockery of everything we're supposed to stand for.

Joe Public said...

Forseti said...

Please Nick, open your eyes and ears and do something before it is too late.

Joe Public says...
It is too late!

http://www.bnp.org.uk/?p=186

http://www.bnp.org.uk/?p=195


They are going to try too get this through parlement & then just hang on to power untill it is finalised before the final deadline 2010 for a general election.

End Game!

So you see MC etc don't matter one jot.

Andy said...

It started with Collett then the net widens. The attacks on Griffin are more vicious than the ones on Collett.
Its so transparent they want Griffin out and collett is the lever.

Anonymous said...

"It started with Collett then the net widens. The attacks on Griffin are more vicious than the ones on Collett.
Its so transparent they want Griffin out and collett is the lever."

If Collett stays in I would imagine more people may start to question NGs judgement but if Collett goes (as he should) it may save the day. Its worth trying, Collett could step down that owuld be the decent thing to do. I dont want NG out but I do want to see MC expelled