And suddenly nothing is the same
I am not going to comment. My heart is ripped apart.
The following is from the blog of the Deputy Leader of the BNP, Simon Darby
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Short and sweet post today.
The following email has this afternoon been found on the BNP computer owned by the former BNP member Sadie Graham.
I do not really need to comment on it other than to say even I was beginning to wonder why Dave Hannam, our Regional Treasurer, was making mistakes. Well now we know the answer don't we and this it would appear is just the tip of the iceberg.
As well as my involvement in politics, I have worked in both the public and private sector. However, in all my experiences I have never known anything like this.
I trust the appalling contents of this email are self-explanatory.
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Subject: Re: gem
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----- Original Message -----
From: Sadie Graham
To: Steve Blake
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: gem......
I think you are doing ok and the right thing. Don’t worry this stays private. We are forced to do stuff at moment. Ive been handing out wrong amended bank statements for my region to make sure that hannam gets the flak. On another note please let me have the letter asap.
Sadie
47 comments:
Very short. Very sweet.
You should change your name to Drama Queen.
Could it be faked?????????????
GA: For goodness sake! Get rid of the email! 1. Its a violation of data protection to post it (and possibly violates the blog rules but check that one out for yourself) 2. You have no evidence of its authenticity. Absolutely anyone can use a cut and paste and produce that from an original email and simply change parts of it to make it look authentic. But given that 1 above exists, delete the post! D****y is a total idiot for posting it!
GA, batten down the hatches eh?
Comment mod on for the first time ever. Keep the scum out and let them play on EIE and UAF forums.
I never doubted it was a coup for a minute, though they dressed it up for the fools as integrity.
I dont think it would be up there if it was faked, it would be hinted at and leaked like aberdeen and hill were sent to do, not out for the world to see.
"My heart is ripped apart" - better that than another part of your anatomy. But you're probably too old to be in danger!
"I dont think it would be up there if it was faked, it would be hinted at and leaked like aberdeen and hill were sent to do, not out for the world to see."
Still in breach of the Data Protection Act wherever it is posted.
Knock knock.
Bring on the Legal Beagle!
Time for the court jester!
LOL! No wonder they were a bit wound up about getting the computer reposessed.
By "heavies" lol
Anonymous said...
"I dont think it would be up there if it was faked, it would be hinted at and leaked like aberdeen and hill were sent to do, not out for the world to see."
Still in breach of the Data Protection Act wherever it is posted.
Knock knock.
11 December 2007 21:02
Lets take a chance diddyman eh? just till we can cc it everywhere?
Shouldn't you be cosied up with Ketlan the fashion expert by now? Its getting dark?
Darby gives the impression that she falsified accounts, but it's possible she simply didn't correct them - a sin of omission, not commission. Perhaps she was tired of wasting hours correcting someone who shouldn't be in the job. Besides, does this mean we resort to burglary, protecting scumbags, and bugging phones? You are straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. And Darby is very guilty for not putting it in context.
"Lets take a chance diddyman eh? just till we can cc it everywhere?
Shouldn't you be cosied up with Ketlan the fashion expert by now? Its getting dark?"
oo er, bitchy. It's all going to "come out" now, big boy!
Not a very good attempt I'm afraid
Anonymous said...
Darby gives the impression that she falsified accounts, but it's possible she simply didn't correct them - a sin of omission, not commission. Perhaps she was tired of wasting hours correcting someone who shouldn't be in the job. Besides, does this mean we resort to burglary, protecting scumbags, and bugging phones? You are straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. And Darby is very guilty for not putting it in context.
11 December 2007 21:11
snigger snigger, oh I'm sniggering at you anon in case you wondered.
Quick! Theres another straw floating by Quick clutch it LOL!
Anonymous said...
"Lets take a chance diddyman eh? just till we can cc it everywhere?
Shouldn't you be cosied up with Ketlan the fashion expert by now? Its getting dark?"
oo er, bitchy. It's all going to "come out" now, big boy!
11 December 2007 21:27
stinks of Red in here, I could be wrong could be EIE
The people clutching at starwas are those who have siezed upon this as 'evidence' of Sadie's wrong doing when it is clear, but badly writeen what she meant - Hannam had wrongly amended the statements and she was hadning them out as they were knowing they were wrong.
If that IS the most incriminating thing on this stolen PC then it doesnt say much about the 'case' case Sadie.
So flimsy it is entirely made of straw and not just the one
OMG - Jackie's lost her job!
From the BNP website:
"National Treasurer John Walker has today been able to order the improved collator/envelope-stuffer that we need to replace the old one"
helena, what's in it for you? It can't be principle mixed with gullibility, as with GA. Why are you defending all this?
"helena, what's in it for you? It can't be principle mixed with gullibility, as with GA. Why are you defending all this?"
I don't think there's any principle attached to GA - it's just a vile, smelly brown nose.
The damage YOU've done to the only Nationalist Party with any chance of success in a generation.
Simple.
Anon 22:05 - are you saying that helena is a brown nose or GA is or both?
heres a passage from Darby's previous post I find easier to believe than the sanctimonious pap you've been trotting out.
Having spent some fifteen years in the Nationalist movement I've seen these squabbles before and being the suspicious type I always think that there could be some more devious motive than could be explained by normal character flaws. That, we will perhaps never know, but I would strongly suspect that this little escapade was designed to correspond with the London Assembly elections. Thankfully, there's no chance of that now and Richard Barnbrook and his team will have a strong, stable and united Party helping him achieve what just a few years ago would have been unthinkable.
I agree with those sentiments though thanks to your stunts I think Darby is a bit optimistic about a stable united party. But then, that was the whole point wasn't it?
"I don't think there's any principle attached to GA - it's just a vile, smelly brown nose."
You speaky English?
What don't you understand, moronanon 22:07?
"OMG - Jackie's lost her job!"
Sadly, whilst Jackie was loyally stuffing envelopes Nicky-boy was stuffing elsewhere!
Touching to see she "did a Hillary", though.
Lol
GA
Sad sad days and it just gets worse.
Please turn comment mod on and get rid of the reds and the terminally dumb. Let them go their own way.
Helena is spot on: batten down the hatches. Let the treacherous rats get their due courtesy of those who have their measure.
Lee John Barnes has them nailed, others too.
Let's let this storm pass and then back to the business of combat against those who threaten civilisation.
Reconquista.
So after Tony's lies we now get Darby's spin, and what's the end result? Another own goal, wow, aren't we good? *rollseyes* so now we know that Sadie was passing around the bank statements that DH had wrongly amended (that means witnesses folks) isn't it further proof that DH is incompetent, and that NG has been out of line? Ooops, don't think that was the message that Darby wanted to put out, was it?
So tell me GA, do you realize every post you make is undermining the BNP's current managements credibility, if it ever had any, or are you just stupid?
Maybe it's the lack of oxygen that reaches the brain when a head is that far up someones arse?
"GA
Sad sad days and it just gets worse.
Please turn comment mod on and get rid of the reds and the terminally dumb. Let them go their own way.
Helena is spot on: batten down the hatches. Let the treacherous rats get their due courtesy of those who have their measure.
Lee John Barnes has them nailed, others too.
Let's let this storm pass and then back to the business of combat against those who threaten civilisation.
Reconquista."
The twat's nowhere around is he?
Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"I am not going to comment. My heart is ripped apart."
AAAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhhhh - poor, broken-hearted twat!!!!!!!!
Lol lol lol lol lol
Green Rat deserts sinking blog!
Lol
Green Arrow: Your intervention smells like the actions of a state pimp.
You are an absolute unknown poking his nose in where it does not belong.
You claim you were in the old NP, how convenient as no-one ever owns up to belonging to that bunch of splitters.
You are your crypto religous waffle are dangerous.
I no longer trust you.
GA its time to take it down as Nick has offered a olive branch to Sadie and Co in his blog.
we need to make sure the peace is made and we can move on.
I wonder if those with a brain can see a pattern here.
First off, it was the terrible 3. Especially Collett.
Then it's Griffin. Then it's Darby. Then it's Barnes. Then it's GA. Then it's Lecomber. Then it's Griffin's filthy friends. There's more...
Then the Graham email is a fake. Then it is real but proves Griffin is a liar. Then it's been ammended and it proves Darby is a liar. Then Darby is lazy bastard never seen on the streets.
And yet, everything Graham and Smith say is gospel. Hmm.
Just an observation. I think madness has set in somewhere don't you GA?
Reconquista.
"Having spent some fifteen years in the Nationalist movement I've seen these squabbles before and being the suspicious type I always think that there could be some more devious motive than could be explained by normal character flaws."
Yes, I agree with you there. Are you really too stupid not to be able to see that this was inevitable - if it wasn't Sadie then it would have bit the party in the arse sometime later under different, perhaps more critical, circumstances, like after we broke into the mainstream. The fact Griffin couldn't see this coming just proves how incompetent he is.
"Then the Graham email is a fake. Then it is real but proves Griffin is a liar. Then it's been ammended and it proves Darby is a liar. Then Darby is lazy bastard never seen on the streets."
Ok, let's just forget the bugging of phones, the burglary, the breaking of data-protection laws, the idiot praising Hitler, seducing under-age girls, hideously damaging videos on YouTube, punch ups at RWB, the loss of priceless activists - yes, let's come back with our tails between our legs, and continue to give our lives to something we know will self-destruct long before it reaches Westminster.
But most of all anon, let's forget sleeping with reds eh?
You've got so many excuses and accusations coming out of your arse you'd believe black is white if it furthered your selfish goals.
We know you have valid issues BUT they don't excuse betrayal. Ever.
You've made your bed go lie on it and let the rest of us get on with fighting more important battles.
"Monkey see monkey do."
Reconquista.
Talking of "sleeping with Reds" let's not forget Burnley BNP, the original Burnley BNP that is, were of the opinion NG and his cronies gave the Reds the venue of Burnley's BNP Tyndall branch meeting.
Lets also remind ourselves that the Griffin NF faction also delibereately gave away the venue to reds and the police of the for the NF/BNP/Campaign for nationalist unity meeting in London all those years ago.
Oh and as a PS, lets also not foget the NG NF tipped off the reds about when and where Martin Webster would be signing on after the NG NF had expelled Webster from their ranks - sometime after JT had urged them to do so but which at the time they did not wish to and so managed to get rid of two thorns.
So whatever happens to SG and KS, Colletts days would seem to be numbered
what, leaving the party because the leadership burgle and cheat and lie and make excuses for Hitler worshippers, and hoping for something new to come along with some respect and an actual chance of power makes me a 'traitor'?
So what are you then? Your party started the same way. I know what you are - a mindless fool, a broken record that doesn't know what else to say, a brainless follower who cannot see the wood for the trees, and thinks the country can be won by a party that allows thugs in top levels of leadership, and thinks that illegal raids at dawn are the correct way to conduct party business. I thought we were about law, order, free speech and democracy?
Tubby
You're now sounding desperate.
When you're in a deep hole, stop digging.
Like I say, you've chosen. You've spat enough venom to defend the undefensible. Go to your team and get on with it. We're moving on now, more important matters to attend to than pandering to the egos of the insecure.
How one man can inspire so much hatred in you that you resort to betrayal of your brothetrs in arms I will never understand. But he has and he's defeated you because you've let him in your heads. Now you live with his shadow and your dishonour and the rest of us move on.
EIE as some might say.
Reconquista.
It is not one man that inspires anger, not hatred, it is what that one man has done time and time again that angers me as it should all those who genuinely have the BNPs best interest at heart.
Venom and spite is presicely what is being levelled at KS/NG right now only for doing, as my posts remined us all, what NG has himself done many times before - something he hinself admits on the BNP site.
Nor has that one man defeated me, on his own he is incapable of defeating anyone, when afforded an opportunity to defend the BNPs position by Russell Brand against two lightweight (in every sense) opponents he couldnt even string a coherent sentence together. Future leader of the party? I don't think so.
What he is capable of, and what he has succeeded in doing on severeal occasions, is to hinder the BNP and it is those who fail to see this, or who see it but who have failed to act, who are defending the indefencable. Unless you can defend the underage allegations, the RWB incident, the conference incident, the YN&P programme - can you? It would be interesting to see someone try and I note you have still not answered whether he was given a FINAL written warning last year or not?
As to moving on, the way this latest discontent was and is being handled shows the party has not moved on at all, it so reminiscent of previous episodes in the party's history going way back it is a retrograde step showing the party hs kept repeating the mistakes form the past which is why some are saying, a growing number I understand, that enough is enough.
the last post wasnt anonymous it was a reply from Tubby
Tubby
You don't - and your colleagues don't - seem to get the point which isn't whether Collett has issues and whether your charges against him are true. It is about how you have gone about "hunting your quarry".
Sometimes things don't happen as quickly as you want. But resorting to betrayal, blackmail, falsifications, and causing a party split and then tunering on fellow brothers in arms - that's the issue.
There was a politically smart way to achieve your aims and there was a politically naive destructive way.
Lee John Barnes hits the nail right on the head: What counts is the way you play the political game.
In life we all have to deal with absolute arseholes in the workplace. Believe me, I've been there with this. Shithouse managers, incomptetent workmates, lazy bastards, arse lickers - people who I had no respect for at all. But not once did any of them get to me so much that I let them in my head and didn't do my work to the best of my ability. Not once did I let any of them make me quit in frustration or disgust.
And most of them eventually got found out, even though it took a long long time. Others are still in the same jobs today.
It's life mate. Sometimes you keep your head down, get on with it and you wait for your moment to strike - no matter how long it takes.
Just reading the invective against Collett is proof in itself that this sorry affair is about him. He's in your heads, he's caused you all to allow impatience and frustration to cloud your judgement and resort to desperation.
That's the issue Tubby. The way you've played the game. Collett will now be a shadow over you and your colleagues for a long time while the rest of us will just get on with what we've been doing and you'll all be forgotten.
And one day, maybe sooner, maybe later, a certain individual will gte his due. No doubt about it.
My final word: Think of this. What will happen when more personality clashes arise in your new fold? Will blackmail, bullying, betrayal and another split result?
Reconquista.
'Louise' said
> GA: For goodness sake! Get rid
> of the email! 1. Its a violation
> of data protection to post it.
Try again. Look under the new legislation that allows monitoring of employees actions and behaviour and in particular monitoring and recording of electronic information sent by, or sent to, computer systems owned by the employer.
The computer in question was owned by the BNP not by the sender or recipient of the message.
And to those of you who wonder about fakery, well, speaking as an IT consultant, there is a way to find out for certain. It means getting hold of the mailserver records. You know, the ones the EU and our "government" have jointly demanded be kept for three years or more ....
In the workplace people like Collett would have been booted out by now they would not get chance after chance after chance. I note you do not defend any of the inane stupidities that have been his work and you still have not answered if he got a final warning.
People have been very patient waiting for this issue to be resolved thinking each time this will be it only to be let down again.
In relation to your last point, if the issue had been dealt with when it should have been and even if it was dealt with properly after the FINAL written warning this episode would not have happened.
Yeah it would coz you wre out for griffin not collett.
Thats beginning to look more and more likely anon 18:10.
The accusations have shifted from Collett the Red Herring and its Nick that's getting it in the neck. Threatsv about "things coming out" are filtering down through all the "hard working committed activists". They've started their own party.
Collett was an excuse from day one.
"Yeah it would coz you wre out for griffin not collett."
If anyone is out to get griffin it will only be because of his inaction. Me Im not out to get Griffin at all, he has transformed the party - despite Collet doing his best to undo all the good work by acting like a thug, singing Hitler's praises etc etc.
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