Monday 24 November 2008

Were Liverpool PoliPolice trained at Guantanamo Bay?

This is not torture. We just want your DNA sample.
Do we have your consent now?


You can read over on the the British National Party's site, details of how one of the Liverpool Thirteen was treated when he offered "passive resistance" to demands for finger prints and DNA samples for simply distributing a perfectly legal booklet.

I hope I will be as brave as Andrew Tierney, the Activst who narrated the following experience, when they come for me.
They then somehow applied a tremendous pressure behind my ears, inflicting great pain,” he continued. Photographs taken shortly afterwards clearly showed bleeding from wounds sustained behind both Mr Tierney’s ears.

Next, the guardians of democracy applied some kind of pressure to his arms and his side, once again leaving considerable bruising, evidenced again by photographs taken shortly after his release.

They then pulled my head back so far that my windpipe was restricted, and while I was gasping for air, applied pressure to the front of my neck as well,” he said. Nearly collapsing from the pain and lack of oxygen, Mr Tierney was then unable to prevent the policemen from taking his fingerprints.

Next they grabbed hold of my nose, and once again somehow applied the most penetrating pressure to the back of my neck, forcing my mouth open to take a DNA swab,” he continued. The whole episode lasted at least a quarter of an hour, and Mr Tierney was left shaken and in pain,
The above experience sounds remarkably like the torture mentioned here in an article about claims of torture at Guantanamo Bay.
“The MPs [military police] inflicted so much pain, Mr Aamer said he thought he was going to die. The MPs pressed on pressure points all over his body: his temples, just under his jawline, in the hollow beneath his ears. They choked him. They bent his nose so hard he thought it would break.”
Now I do not give a damn about terrorists but I do give a damn about the law and what is right in a supposedly civilised world and the torture of anyone is just not on. Certainly not on for trying to preserve democracy.


Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment

What is torture?


Article 1

1. For the purposes of this Convention, the term "torture" means any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him or a third person information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in or incidental to lawful sanctions.

The BNP are constantly vilified with articles in the Mirror and Guardian going out of their way to positively encourage attacks on people whose names are on the Role of Honour for whatever reason. These attacks are on the orders of the state.

They are like the early Nazis in Germany, whipping up the population into a frenzy of hate in order to dehumanise the BNP people and make attacks on them acceptable. Then when one of us dies, it will be, "who cares. He was only a BNP member".

But their attacks, like the one mentioned in the News of the World are failing, just as their government masters are failing to reclaim the trust of the True British People they have betrayed. Their days are truly numbered and the time they spend in prison will be as long as their numbered bank accounts in foreign countries.

Long live the BNP

A Big Hat tip to a Great Lady: Ancient Brit of the Green Arrow Forum.

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